Friday, December 02, 2005

Good bye Nguyen....

Hope he has gone to a better place.

Singaporeans can now carry on with their lives now as though nothing has happened. John Little sale at the Expo is so crowded. According to the Straits Times, the Singapore govt has done the legally right thing to hang Nguyen.

Our high commissioner Joseph Koh had the final words on "why Nguyen must die". Nobody can fault the superior logic of our civil service elite.

Yes, Nguyen is gone. Singapore is a much safer place. I feel so safe when I walk around in the night and nobody ever offer me chemical means to get high. Of course I easily say no sinceI get high on reading the Straits Times and the wonderful accomplishment of the PAP govt. Why would anyone need drugs in Singapore to get high anyway, eveything is so perfect, it is a HIGH just living in Singapore under the PAP.

In light of the rigorous debate thrust upon us by the Australian media. We should make more advances in our legal system from this point, we should proceed to use the effectiveness of the death penalty on more crimes to make Singapore a better safer place, I can think of a few:

a. Gambling den casino operators. No only destroy an individual, families are destroyed.

b. Loan sharks.

c. Adulterers. I've asked around, those people negatively affected by it feel strongly that adulterers should hang - they destroy lives and families too.

d. People who don't their parking fines. We are already jailing them, but it seems this deterrent is not enough, it is time to go for the death penalty. It is perfectly justified if these people knowingly break the law, they deserve to hang.

Once that is done, we can be as crime free as Iran.


Ken Pobjoy said...

The argument that people like Nguyen Tuong Van cause the death of people by smuggling drugs into the country is so silly that it's nearly laughable.

People die because they inject drugs into themselves.

No one forces them to start taking drugs (and don't give me that peer pressure rubbish) and no one forces them to continue taking them. When they put the needle into their left arm, you can bet they have the syringe in the right hand. Their right hand, not someone else's.

We could put forward the argument that if we didn't have cars, then we would reduce the road toll. Or if we didn't have aeroplanes we wouldn't have deaths from aircrart crashes. But do we go after General Motors or Boeing with the death penalty. And when is the Singaporean government going to arrest the directors of British Tobacco, Wills, Reynold's Tobacco etc. They produce an addictive substance that kills many more people per year than illegal drugs, and yet I've see hundreds of Singaporeans smoking the filthy stuff and blowing the carceogenic killer smoke into people's breathing space.

So hang them all I say: tobacco manufacturers, smokers, aircraft manufacturers, General Motors, Ford, Mitsubishi etc... and we'll have a wonderful society in the long run.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the comment above.
Having used heroin myself (about 20 years ago now) I can say with certainty I was 100 per cent responsible for my own actions. No one "pushed" drugs onto me, I chose to take the legal and health risks, and I quit using when I experienced my health in danger. I endangered my own life and health; nobody else deserves any blame, legally or morally.

Anonymous said...

A Hanging
It was about forty yards to the gallows. I watched the bare brown back of the prisoner marching in front of me. He walked clumsily with his bound arms, but quite steadily, with that bobbing gait of the Indian who never straightens his knees. At each step his muscles slid neatly into place, the lock of hair on his scalp danced up and down, his feet printed themselves on the wet gravel. And once, in spite of the men who gripped him by each shoulder, he stepped slightly aside to avoid a puddle on the path.

It is curious, but till that moment I had never realized what it means to destroy a healthy, conscious man. When I saw the prisoner step aside to avoid the puddle, I saw the mystery, the unspeakable wrongness, of cutting a life short when it is in full tide. This man was not dying, he was alive just as we were alive. All the organs of his body were working - bowels digesting food, skin renewing itself, nails growing, tissues forming - all toiling away in solemn foolery. His nails would still be growing when he stood on the drop, when he was falling through the air with a tenth of a second to live. His eyes saw the yellow gravel and the grey walls, and his brain still remembered, foresaw, reasoned - reasoned even about puddles. He and we were a party of men walking together, seeing, hearing, feeling, understanding the same world; and in two minutes, with a sudden snap, one of us would be gone - one mind less, one world less.

George Orwell

Anonymous said...

Why is it mostly the poor and the marginalised who get executed and not the rich and the powerful?

Anonymous said...

Likely answer to the above comment:
The law in Singapore favours people who have deep pocket and good connections.

Anonymous said...

see it this way: if drugs aren't easily available, then people wouldn't even have the chance to make a choice.

i thought the aust newspapers were interested only in whipping up negative sentiments. so wow, well done, the age - for having some sensibility and journalistic integrity/balance.

"The law in Singapore favours people who have deep pocket and good connections."

if your view is that blinkered, then you should say the law in every country of this world favours the rich and powerful

Anonymous said...

don't commend the age too fast. just look at the headline: a totally wicked low blow. anyone not familiar with the workings of a newspaper will think that the hi comissioner came up with it

LuckySingaporean said...

::::::see it this way: if drugs aren't easily available, then people wouldn't even have the chance to make a choice::::::

You can actually grow your own cannabis. But you're right..... If gambling dens and casinos isn't readily available then people also wouldn't have the chance to make a choice to gamble. We should therefore hang gambling den operators.

Anonymous said...

Posted by same "anonymous" (yes, I'm Australian) as second comment:

Re: "if drugs aren't easily available, then people wouldn't even have the chance to make a choice."

On many Aboriginal communities in Australia, the most serious and destructive drug abuse is petrol sniffing. Sometimes the petrol is bought from stations in tin cans, often it is syphoned from a car's tank.

It gives the user -- typically, children and teenagers -- a dizzy high, but causes extremely severe damage to the user's brain and general health. Petrol sniffing is devastating these young people and the communities they live in.

Does anyone in this sickening drug-abuse scenario deserve to hang? And if a culprit could be found, what good would killing someone do for anyone?

Hanging drug smugglers is barbarism. Any society -- regardless of whether it's Singapore or the United States -- that carries out capital punishment is guilty of the ultimate crime against humanity and deserves the total condemnation of civilised society.

Anonymous said...

above anon should be hanged

Anonymous said...

To the australian anonymous:

i see your point on petrol. but it's so easy to pick on the word drug and turn it to your advantage.

if the exact word used is heroin, you would have nothing to work on. you can grow poppy but the manufacturing process, while not rocket science, is impractical for the man in the street.

capital punishment: when the bali bombers were sentenced to death, you australians applauded. now how hypocritical is that

Anonymous said...

Australians are hypocritical. John Howard is selectively anti-death penalty.

At the same time, how can anyone justify the death of Van Nguyen in the clinical way that the Singapore government has. The people only presented one side of the story. Is there no compassion in this sterile city?

The world is hypocritical.
Celebrity drug users are glamorous.
They provide a market for these dealers.

What to do?
I've fought hard to dispell the stereotype of the Singaporean as a non-thinking robotic Asian maths whiz. Then this comes along. People ask me why my people are like this? I don't know how to answer them except that we are not all of third world mentality.

Anonymous said...

This is "Australian anonymous" again. Posting comments is as addictive as heroin, huh?

First thing:

I gave the example of petrol sniffing to illustrate that drug abuse is a social problem and a health problem - legal issues are a consequence of the problem and the law is not a very useful instrument for trying to prevent or solve drug problems.

Heroin is only one of many many drugs that are abused. In some countries including Thailand, for example, there's a major drug abuse problem with a particular cough medicine. The range of easily available drugs which can be abused and cause serious problems to individual health and society generally is vast. (I tried quite a smorgasbord when I was young and immortal; compared to injecting heroin I’d rate snorting amphetamines as far more debilitating to personal health and more likely to make a user dangerous to others. And you can get the pills without prescription to make speed from any pharmacy. Hang the chemists?)

Trying to restrict supply will never solve the problems. Singapore’s a thriving free market economy; Singaporeans should understand the laws of supply and demand - scarcity just increases profits. The solutions are complex, but I think are about creating a society and families in which the urge to use destructive drugs is as low as possible and in which medical and emotional help is available for those foolish/unfortunate individuals who need it.

Second thing:

Some Australians moved by base instincts would have applauded Bali bombers being sentenced to death, but i did not and would not and nor would the majority of Australians.

Australia is home to an extremely diverse community of different people with different values who came here from all over the world.

However, votes, surveys, studies etc repeatedly show the majority of Australians are opposed to capital punishment. For any crime.

There are a lot of things I'm ashamed of as an Australian -- such as our contribution to the Iraq invasion and occupation; the terrible plight of Aboriginal people; and our inhumane policy towards refugees -- but at least most of us know that resorting to murder to punish a criminal is an act of savagery that drags the whole society back towards animalism.

You know the saying: an eye for an eye leaves us all blind.

Shama said...

I am Asian and living temporarily in Australia and am appalled by the Nguyen case - both Singapore's position and Aussies here who bayed for blood. Its nice to know that some Singaporeans do feel differently. But it completely perplexes me as to why the death penalty sentence for Nguyen is being compared to Australia's position on the Bali bombers (and of late Saddam). This places *everything* on the same moral spectrum - from Nguyen to casino owners encouraging gambling to cigarette companies that suppressed data and sent many to tobacco related deaths to Al-Qaeda to Hilter. Does everyone swing? If morality is so absolute and its punsihments so extreme, it may be well be the best way to get rid of the entire human race (Mr. Darshan Singh no doubt will be the last proud survivor). I think the real issue is mandatory sentencing and the absence of due process. And that people hand over their freedoms to mainatin the illusion of security.

Anonymous said...

There must be something seriously wrong with LuckySingaporean,he
doesn not seem to have an ounce of humanity.
Wanting the death penalty for people who dont pay traffic fines for example is sick. May he crawl back under the rock from whence he came.

Anonymous said...

I just thank God that I was not born in a dreadful place like Singapore.

currypuff said...

I know this is late, but for the benefit of future non-local readers, understand this:

The author of this blog is being sarcastic. This blog is a satire.

I can assure you that he does not support the death penalty, and he doesn't think highly of the powers that be in this very undemocratic country. Far from it!

It is understandable for foreigners to miss the sacarsm. Even some locals don't get it.

For locals that are convinced of the infallibility of our government's morals, have a look at this article. You may just have a change of heart.