Tuesday, October 24, 2006

Elitism 201.

"I think if you cut through he insensitivity of the language,
her basic point is reasonable, that is a well-educated unversity
graduate who works for a multinational company should not be
bemoaning about the Government and get on with the challenges in life."
- MP Wee Siew Kim, Ang Moh Kio GRC father of Shu Min.

Elitism 101 is found here.

I am totally surprised at the reaction to Wee Shu Min's blog post on Derek Wee's concern about older workers in Singapore. The anger and criticism of Shu Min shows a lack of understanding of how our system works and netizens have certainly been unfair to Shu Min who is the daughter of an elite MP Wee Siew Kim. It is not her fault that she possesses such an opinion which her father shares (not the language but the logic, see quote above). To have all these less capable ordinary Singaporeans with ordinary degrees holding jobs with ordinary capabilities whining about their anxieties and concerns is certainly unacceptable and negative. ...MP Wee's message to them is stop moaning. You might expect an MP to share your concerns and troubles but please be understanding, an elite MP who holds a top post, say, in a GLC does not struggle to pay for his HDB flat, never needs to stay awake at night worried about medical bills or the cost of his children's education. His part-time MP position yields an income of $13,000 per month...and his full time job several times more. It is totally unreasonable for ordinary Singaporeans to expect their elite MPs to understand the challenges, problems and fears they face in their daily lives.

Many people believe we have an meritocracy. Actually we don't. What we have is an elitist system based on selection - resources and opportunities are generously continuously allocated to this group of elites through the system and a structure.

"Singapore is like Sparta, where the top students are taken away from their parents as children and educated. Cohort by cohort, they each select their own leadership, ultimately electing their own Philosopher King......But when I reached the end of the book, it dawned on me that though the starting point was meritocracy, the end result was dictatorship and elitism. In the end, that was how Sparta crumbled" - Ngiam Dow Tong, a former top civil servant (link)

The most important characteristic of real meritocracy is not that the winner takes all at the end but that everyone has a chance to play and compete. It is this competition that creates energy and dynamism in a society. To have this competition, we need a level playing field and for as many people as possible to feel that they have a chance. Other features of a meritocratic society is the lack of secrecy and tendency for the system to eliminate inherited advantages.

Elitism is different from meritocracy. It is the belief that the views of a selected group of people, the elite, are far more worthy than those of others (the non-elite)....and hence the views of the public can be disregarded. Because more resources and opportunities are allocated to the elites, the accomplishments will reaffirm the original belief that they are more deserving of those opportunities.

Singaporeans are so lucky that there is a group of elites leading them. These elites are very versatile and talented, they cross over from politics to business and vice versa with ease. Ordinary Singaporeans like Derek Wee should just keep his views to himself as his logic cannot simply cannot match those of our elites and their elite offsprings. He should spend his energy on the many challenges the PAP has created for him - high cost of living, foreign talents competition etc. These challenges are there to keep him motivated and it is for his own good. The elites have been selected are exempted from real competition even when they go for elections....this is so that they can focus their energies to work hard for Singaporeans' interests. For that they are paid $13K per month usually as a part-time MP or if they become one of the super-elite ministers they stand to make more than $1M a year. That is why we can be assured they will always show sympathy to the ordinary Singaporeans whose average household income is $3600 per month.


Anonymous said...

ya hor ? why i so stupid ah ? Get so angry for what ?

Good post Lucky Tan . And you are right - Wee Siew Kim doesn't get it - becos he just doesn't get it. He doesn't appreciate the problems that ordinary folk go through. Sigh .... So much for "staying together, moving ahead". It should be "winners take all , losers get out of my elite uncaring face (sorry let me rephrase in nicer language) ; losers , oops i mean , non-elites , just get on with it and stop bothering us elites while we work out what's best for you - and don't forget to ask for help if you really , really need it - we can't do with another MRT delay". I hope S'poreans remember this at the next election .....

Anonymous said...

Wee Siew Kim's biggest challenge now should be to teach his si gina on how to be more sensitive to others' arse, especially if she wants to suck their asses to the top!

A bunch of leeches.

Blueheeler - the dog that sniffs out fishy news said...

tsk tsk tsk...You insinuated that MPs get a monthly 'salary' of S$13,000. WRONG!

I think they each get S$13,000 monthly 'allowance' and as 'allowance', it may not even be taxable.

And you said that the average monthly family income is S$3600?! Shite, my family is below average... Where do I go get govt hand-outs???

Anonymous said...

"Army will intervene in freak elections" - Lee Kuan Yew, 15 Sep 2006

Anonymous said...

Quote from Wee Siew Kim's comment "... But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated...." Who's privacy has been violated, Derek has also written in his private blog and his daughter has violated Derek's privacy too and will Derek be suing her for defamation and so on....

Anonymous said...

Heehee, they also got pension till they die hor.

Like that hor, how to understand what Mr Tan was feeling before he jumped?

vesance said...

"... I feel that her privacy has been violated ... her basic point is reasonable ..."


Former PSC scholar Chen Jiahao (AcidFlask) should have a MP father. =)

Anonymous said...

"$600,000 a year ... is peanuts" - Mrs Goh Chok Tong, 14 Jul 2005

"Army will intervene in freak elections" - Mr Lee Kuan Yew, 15 Sep 2006

"I feel that her privacy has been violated.. her basic point is reasonable" - MP Wee Siew Kim, Ang Moh Kio GRC

Rampant Legitimised Corruption in Singapore Government Positions:


Anonymous said...

It doesn't strike me that MP Wee is apologetic or sincere in his remarks about his daughter's blog. "Brutal truth", "Her privacy ... violated" and such phrases used by him, coupled with his support for her "basic point" tells us what this MP thinks about the ordinary Singaporeans. I wonder if he agrees with her basic point of "get out of my elite uncaring face"

Survival of the fittest is one thing, but I think comfortable Singaporeans who "survived" should move on to another level where we as a Nation should look out for one another, to help lagging Singaporeans. Stop being too selfish. You do not need to enrich the others such that they become as rich as you are, just that they can have a shelter and water flowing from their pipes.

Lastly, dun forget about those donation drives/flag days... should we tell them "My problem?"

Anonymous said...


In Singapore, my sense is that the government is more likely to tell you: "Get out of my elite uncaring face". Not in those exact words, surely they would be more diplomatic, but the spirit of it would be largely the same. Yes?

If you need further confirmation, just read this further paragraph in the ST article, quoting PAP MP Wee Siew Kim (Shu Min's father). Emphasis mine.

Mr Wee Siew Kim said he stood by his daughter's 'basic point', but added: 'As a parent, I may not have inculcated the appropriate level of sensitivity, but she has learnt a lesson.

Then they wonder why so many Singaporeans want to emigrate, or don't like serving NS, or dare not have babies. Heheh.

Anonymous said...

"Army will intervene in freak election" - LKY

This is exactly what happend in Thailand and his son said "It is a step back for democracy."

I suppose the Thai people are not so fortunate as Singapore to have such "enlightened" leadership.

Anonymous said...

"This is exactly what happend in Thailand and his son said "It is a step back for democracy.""

the son said that because the son's wife just did business with thaksin mah!

and what do the son and dad knows about democracy. look at the way they run singapore.

"staying together, moving ahead"

talkcock only! the people moving ahead are wee shu min and the PAPers!

Anonymous said...

"Staying together, moving ahead".

With MPs like Wee, it all becomes a lie.

What the PAP and their elites are doing is "We get ahead, the rest of you stay behind"....and "you die your business...and make sure you pay all your bills before you die or we will sue your children".

The poor don't waste our money, our money is wasted by the PAP.

Anonymous said...

I don't mind deducting $100 from my salary to help the tan (MRT suicide) family.

but using my tax money to pay the $1,000,000 elites and their children's elite education or wasting money on suzhou, biopolis or thaksin's shin corp piss me off!

Anonymous said...

yup i'm sure you look at things differently when you eat mee siams with hums and rinse your mouth with shark fins' soup.

"Army will intervene in freak election" - LKY

so i guess my son serving NS is going to shoot me down for going against PAP. or LKY's gurkhas guards going to shoot both me and my son.

Anonymous said...

Kick them out to their favorite Batam Isalnd and let them rule themselves and live in their own elite world lah.

Anonymous said...

they won't go Batam lah. if one day they are really ousted. they will go Australia, Canada, UK or USA. their children studying there, they got landed properties there. why would would they choose batam.

they are in power now so they label singaporeans who migrate as quitters. u watch where the elites will go if they are ousted.

Anonymous said...

"But when I reached the end of the book, it dawned on me that though the starting point was meritocracy, the end result was dictatorship and elitism."

do you know why the rich man was told to give up all if he wanted to be part of the new and living way?

many thought it was just a test. truth of the matter is, despite his 'clean' existence, the one thing that is the cause of all corruption, including meritocracy, he couldn't give up - sad!

servitude and an unyielding faith of the good it derives from a common denominator IS the LOVE of it and shall become the poison through which its root system strangles all lives eventually - including the elites.

it takes trememdous honesty and the love for the truth to enter into this new and living way.

sorry to say, it is an inconvenient truth to admit to so these 'enlightened ministers' embrace a form of hypocritical legalistic pseudo righteous attitude that lead the blind into greater bondage.

surprisingly, prostitudes are more deserving to enter in than them because the latter are the former doing - aerial view!

admitting to living off meat money is hard to swallow at that high an altitude!

Anonymous said...

A few things came to mind.

1) it's us vs them. if you are part of the elite group (who's your daddy), you get invincibility.

2) the way we select winners is very narrow minded. and we made them to be winners. like coining projects done by them a success. there are many times in civil service, officers all the way up, these scholars are nothing but average people, yet they are put on special teams, projects, and put on this certain expressway to promotion, just because of their A-level results.

the logic goes like:
A-level good -> foreign Uni -> good degree -> high civil service pay -> express promotion (based on degree -- meritocracy baby) -> visible projects -> coined successes -> all justifiable

the people at the top just needs to select people who think and act like them, with morals too like them, so that they can band together, get stronger, and ensure their own interests are served.

it's part of humanity really, but sadly. there is no counter-balancing of any kind here in sg.

Anonymous said...

just leave the fucking country, why make babies and let them grow up in such an environment?!

Anonymous said...

You guys are all pathetic losers. I bet most of you have a part to play in the 66.6% majority; after that, come here and make all this noise. Seriously, you deserve to be asked to get out of their "elite uncaring faces".

noone'sperfect said...

Interesting program on TV last night.. HAMMER AND TICKLE http://www.sbs.com.au/whatson/index.php3?progdate=24:10:2006
Discussed the role of humour in communist societies and its role in their downfall..... explains the total lack of humour within PAP ...
If the people start laughing at the PAP maybe they'll quit and run...
You can be elite as you like however we all end up the same with our last breath

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

"Retrenchment is good for singapore. If there is no retrenchments, then I worry." - SM Goh

"I don't think that there should be a cap on the number of directorship that a person can hold." - PAP MP John Chen who holds 8 directorships.

"It's not for the money because some of the companies pay me as little as $10,000 a year." - PAP MP Wang Kai Yuen who holds 11 directorships.

"If you want to dance on a bar top, some of us will fall off the bar Top. Some people will die as a result of liberalising bar top dancing... a young girl with a short skirt dancing on it may attract some insults from some other men, the boyfriend will start fighting and some people will die." - Vivian Balakrishnan, Minister for Community Development, Youth and Sports

"I would want to form an alternative policies group in Parliament, comprising 20 PAP MPs. These 20 PAP MPs will be free to vote in accordance with what they think of a particular policy. In other words, the whip for them will be lifted. This is not playing politics, this is something which I think is worthwhile doing." - SM Goh

"If you sing Jailhouse Rock with your electric guitar when others are playing Beethoven, you are out of order. The whip must be used on you." - SM Goh again, on a dramatic u-turn, rethink or backtrack, whatever you call it.

"Save on one hairdo and use the money for breast screening." - another gem from Lim Hng Kiang

"We started off with (the name) and after looking at everything, the name that really tugged at the heartstrings was in front of us. The name itself is not new, but what has been used informally so far has endeared itself to all parties." - Mah Bow Tan on the $400,000 exercise to rename Marina Bay as Marina Bay.

"Having enjoyed football as a national sport for decades, we in Singapore have set ourselves the target of reaching the final rounds of World Cup in 2010." - Ho Peng Kee

"Only 5% are unemployed. We still have 95% who are employed." - Yeo Cheow Tong

"Singaporean workers have become more expensive than those in the USA and Australia." - Tony Tan

"People support CPF cuts because there are no protest outside parliament." - PM Lee

"No, it was not a U-turn, and neither was it a reversal of government policy. But you can call it a rethink." - Yeo Cheow Tong

"...I regret making the decision because, in the end, the baby continued to be in intensive care, and KKH now runs up a total bill of more than $300,000..." - Lim Hng Kiang, regretting the decision to save a baby's life because KKH ran up a $300,000 bill

Anonymous said...

"Army will intervene in freak elections" - Lee Kuan Yew, 15 Sep 2006

Anonymous said...

he seems to imply that the people are offended by the brutal truth.i beg to defer. i think the people and especially the authorities must hear the brutal and painful truth in all it insensitivities to fully feel the impact of anger towards injustices and evil. that is completely different from what her daughter did which is to demoralise the common man and suppress all the glorious insentivities towards wickedness!

but then, the instrument of defamation will keep us all obedient and stupid....we are lucky we don't belong to this kind of society.hehe

Anonymous said...

social engineers try to create 'gracious society' using laws.

result...it also suppress brutal truth because egos very sensitive and lose face can not tahan. they also want freedom to be hypocrites so you can not say brutal truth.

so brutal truth lesser and lesser all become like mousie idiots only know how to long que buy totos or shopping or eating give them freedom to give that kind of help to cause people jump into mrt track and make plenty monies off idiots.

but you slam them for wrongs, now they say must gentle say not hurt their fat face because we 'gracious society'.

nabeh. this kind of gracious society dehumanize people for easy bully!

fake gracious society! give me rawness of humans and i say it evolves into real gracious society!

hows the theory hah???lol

No legitimate Offense Please said...

They're uniquely optimistic that the great underclass masses can make politically sweetened correctness just like the upperclass fat asses, you think?

HK said...

err..that's why they don't have streets protests because...they are very 'polite' people mah...hehe

but we are unlucky people because we can be human hor

Anonymous said...

this is what happens when elected government serves peasants.

"Employers have reacted with horror to the new Australian Fair Pay Commission's (AFPC) first minimum wage decision, which delivers up to $27.36 a week for the nation's poorest workers."


Anonymous said...

Someone should start a website to record all those infamous quotes from our elists. They are interesting when one reads these quotes together.

Anonymous said...

does she even need to be the fittest in order to survive, in the first place, that she fits the position to lecture the ordinary folks with contempts and disparagement. as an elite, daughter of an MP, her comments can be condone for no substantial solution for the poor, instead of encouragement which is the best that she can do, just look at the haughty language and diatribe

Piyai said...

The girl's mentality I call youth's folly, but when the dad, who's supposed to serve the masses, makes his, I start to wonder what criteria the government use when selecting our MPs. I started a blog to voice my own views at http://walkthestreetoflife.blogspot.com/

Hope "my privacy will not be violated" ;-)

Anonymous said...


Sunday October 29, 11:46 AM

Minimum wage rise is reasonable: Andrews Workplace Relations Minister Kevin Andrews has defended last week's increase in the minimum wage as fair and reasonable in the prosperous economy. ...
"We are in a prosperous economy at the present time ... as I go around the country, wherever I go, business owners and proprietors say to me we simply can't find the number of people we need to do jobs." ...

Anonymous said...


Sunday October 29, 11:46 AM

Minimum wage rise is reasonable: Andrews Workplace Relations Minister Kevin Andrews has defended last week's increase in the minimum wage as fair and reasonable in the prosperous economy. ...
"We are in a prosperous economy at the present time ... as I go around the country, wherever I go, business owners and proprietors say to me we simply can't find the number of people we need to do jobs." ...