Thursday, August 27, 2009

On gratefulness and appreciation....

The first salvo was fired by a Canadian PR asking Singaporeans to be grateful. The next one was fired by Juliet Chua in a forum letter [Shame on you, young bloggers] berating young bloggers for being ungrateful and unappreciative and writing negative articles about the govt. This was followed up by The New Paper which quoted a number of different sources:
These people got it wrong associating criticism of the govt with being ungrateful. Most bloggers criticise the govt for one of the following: the economic inequality, high cost of living, the lack of adequate aid for the poor and old, the lack of a minimum wage for the low income and negative impact of imported labor on a large segment of the populace. Few of us are asking for these improvements for ourselves and I believe many bloggers who criticise the govt do it out of sense of justice and desire to make Singapore a better place for Singaporeans. I will tell you why these are the truly grateful people in Singapore....and who are those who ones who have really forgotten and forsakened those who held them up.

The current generation of old folks are those who were children during the 2nd World War and they were not well educated but industrous. They grew up in poverty but worked their way up to become the No. 1 workforce in the world during the 80s. It was this workforce - one that never went on strike, one that accepted 3rd shift work, lower wages, tough work and longer hours - that got Singapore to where it is today. They contributed in a big way to Singapore's success that is why many young Singaporeans, myself included, are grateful for their sacrifice. That is why I feel that they should have a graceful retirement rather than made to work in their golden years. That is why it pains me to see aged Singaporeans digging dustbins for aluminium cans. The PAP leaders seems to have forgotten the contribution of this group of people asking them to work longer and hard even when they are frail and weak...denying them sufficient assistance [Link].

I'm grateful to the thousands of Singaporeans who work as cleaners to keep Singapore clean, the drivers, the clerks, etc, who are the backbone of our economy. That is why I strongly believe they deserve a decent wage for doing a full time job - they cannot be left struggling as the cost of living goes up and their wages go down. We cannot keep importing foreign labor to depress their pay so that businesses can redirect their costs towards paying for higher rent, higher utilities, higher fees for govt services etc. It is because young bloggers are appreciative of this segment of our population (now living in poverty and struggling to make ends meet) that is why we write negatively about govt policies such as the FT policy that will hurt this group of Singaporeans further.

So who is it that is ungrateful and unappreciative of Singaporeans? These men have also put their bets on progress being possible only if they open the floodgates to foreigners - creating an unlevel playing field for their fellow Singaporeans [Link] and forgetting the sacrifices Singaporeans have made to serve the country. These men have created an inequitable system with a huge income gap that puts the many Singaporean families at risk. At the same time, they have paid themselves the highest salaries in the world for their profession. Why should we show them gratitude when they have shown none for ordinary Singaporeans?


62 comments:

Anonymous said...

The MSM is being used once again to manage public perception AND to some extent it will work as there are many who read MSM but do not go the extra length to read alternate views and think through themselves. But...in the coming years, more and more will read other than the MSM and there will be changes; either by a government realising the need to do so before it is too late, or ...

Anonymous said...

Well said but this is the usual spin from our rag. I would really like to hear your views on the new Temasek Charter though. Would you blog that?

Azz said...

We pay taxes, and that's where they get their salaries and budget from. That makes them our (well paid) employees. Singapore belongs to us. On that basis, why can't we be critical of their work?

Anonymous said...

Being critical of bad policies does not mean the people are ungrateful. It could just mean that the policies are bad in the first place. I hope the Govt will do some self reflection and stop being so mollycoddle.

Btw, it is a good post.

Benjamin said...

I believe that most Singaporeans are grateful for what the government did in the past to build the country up to where it is now. However the current issues that are left standing without a satisfactory answer from the government is troubling indeed. It merely feels like the current PAP is riding on the success of MM Lee and deliberately evading the main concerns of the citizens.

To improve we must be willing to accept change, continuously having all our potential ministers only under one banner leaves them stuck with the mentality and culture of One PAP, One Singapore.

Knowing that the same people are being rotated over and over in the government makes me depressed. All the influential ones are under the PAP umbrella which does not bode well for the people.

Anonymous said...

Hey Lucky

I think u will like this:

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Anonymous said...

but more bad news about your role models. i.e Timmy.

http://thecynicaleconomist.com/?p=7151

Anonymous said...

and the Change brought by your other hero ... Mr Obama.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hWrI1hNasrNtnpI2zo8oCk3Fiesw

Anonymous said...

... my point is merely that gahmen is the problem ...

btw, recruited any disciples to spread the good news (your blog) yet?

Onlooker said...

Looking at the way they treat the general populace now as disposable asset and not citizen with civil rights including the right to express concern over the way thing are being handled especially when it is public money(reserves, CPF and GST).One wonders is Singapore a democracy?

And yet of course there are always people who have benefited tremendously(at the expense of other) from these unfair conditions that they are willing to close their eyes to the mishandling of public assets.
Because quite frankly, They do not have much attachment to red dot that why they can post "carrying balls" letter to ST forums.Perhaps in the hope that such actions will gain them some favour from the Garment.These are exactly the people who will NOT tell the Garment that there is a hole forming and pretend that everything is okay when they saw an old Chinese lady(surprisingly some of whom are FT too perhaps they have a better method of begging that the old lady can learn) begging at the temple or street.

Well,Our Garment invited them.And the emperor is wearing the finest garment made of nothing that is fabricated by F tailors.

What to do? it happened....

Gratefulness and appreciation have to be earned.
How can monkeys gain Gratefulness and appreciation when they hold such profound disdain for the people who "Elected" them and that The Monkeys are "Suppose" to "Serve".

Anonymous said...

lucky,really well said!
touche, who are the ungrateful ones indeed.

Anonymous said...

Excellent article! Argument valid and lucid.

Shame on those who call us ingrate! Stop praising the LKY regime because this is really about licking the arse (i.e. the hole at backside!!!) of the regime.

Anonymous said...

Hey Lucky

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2009-08/27/content_8622015.htm

HDB is active in China!

*Just kidding*

should we buy SPH shares?
Looks like we should beat China in the RSF ranking soon ;-)

Anonymous said...

Dear Onlooker

If u really have disdain for the monkeys running the show now ... dun just look on ...

Let ALL your friends and relatives know!

Bring them to this blog!
And ask them to bring their frinds and relatives!
Time is of the essence!

Anonymous said...

Everytime I read these articles by foreigners who comment on the goodness of Singapore and about the ungratefuleness of Singaporeans in that respect, I laugh and brush it aside as propaganda tool. Unless they polish up, it is really hard to believe in what they say.

I suggest that everyone start taking up a scale and tip up the Pros and Cons and you soon realise it it tipping rather unfavourably against the Singaporeans.

And, don't really believe in what you read. You have to differentiate what is factual and not.

BTW I read in ST about Citi Kit Wei Zhen saying about wages outpace property prices etc...and the comment by a reader published to counter this...Well this is what I like to read!

Anonymous said...

Yeap....saw two full pages on TH in MSM....couldn't believe my eyes when they wrote that TH has no regrets being more TRANSPARENT. Of course, the article did not in any way state in what way had they been more transparent compared to previously.....didn't bother to read the rest of the article...got a bit frustrated at how people can make sweeping statements and ridiculous declarations/judgments on things without feeling embarrassed when obviously it has been proven otherwise or trying to pretend that it is not the case.....

same as that anonymous who goes around making funny judgments about people......

what is the world coming to.....

Anonymous said...

Once upon a time, there was this man, L, who had this hobby of painting by the park. He was no real artist but that was his love or pastime (actually no one knows his real intentions.)

Over time, L began to draw crowds of people who gathered to see him paint. L was no trained artist or painter, but he decided to continue because he enjoyed drawing and painting and also in due time, interacting with the people there. (maybe because we obviously do not know L's true intentions and motives)

Among the crowd, there were people from different walks of life. Now, there were some real enthusiasts among the crowd. However, there were also some ordinary folks who enjoyed his painting and definitely not some connoisseurs of art.

One fine day, a man, by the name of A, came by and was intrigued by what he saw. He seemed to be a connoisseur of art.

"*snigger* Your painting is flawed. You should not draw like this and there should be a darker shade here. A man should have two eyes and a mouth....etc"

L ignored him and continued painting. Incensed, A began berating at everything and everyone there.

"*snigger*, You must be very naive because the standard of painting is so shallow, yet you stood there admiring for 30 minutes..." pointing to one of the men standing there.

Unsatisfied, he walked over to another person and said, "*snigger*, You must be a blind believer of L, if not, why are you standing here?"

Surprisingly, A came by every day to look at L's painting and always had some comments.

Shaking his head disapprovingly, "this is getting bad. All the people here are bad for art and in time, the world will suffer."

One of them said, "Well, I am no connoiseur of art, but I enjoyed watching L paint and hearing his thoughts abouting painting."

Perplexed, he told him that L's painting had degenerated (wait a minute, was there any standard of quality in the first place?)

"You are really lousy. Can't you see that it is a lousy painting and totally flawed. Why do you need to defend him? Anyway, L seemed like a strong enough man to justify his standard of painting," laughing,"go and get more people to support his painting, then I will believe you!" (Slapping his thighs, he walked away, totally satisfied at the exchange.

On certain cloudy breezy day where the conditions were perfect for painting,

A came rushing towards the same old spot where L was painting, panting,"Aha, I know the perfect reason why you paint so badly and why your paintings are totally flawed!"

"These are the pictures from Obamy and Timmy. Why follow their styles when they are so bad and lousy? Can't you see that the WHOLE WORLD knows that they are the worst painters? Huh? They must be your true HEROES and role-models. What taste??!?! I am the true connoiseur of art and all these people here do not know anything about art! Go and recruit new followers. Maybe then you can then justify that you paint very well and worthy of my taste and time in coming here to look at your piece of junk!"

Sorry...couldn't resist writing : )

Anonymous said...

We should be grateful to those who have contributed to making Singapore what she is today, but why the government?

We pay them don't we? It is their job, they aren't doing any charity.

Anonymous said...

There are two Singapores - one for the well to do and another for ordinary Singaporeans.

For the well to do, Singapore is really a good place to be in. Singapore is considered value for money with their expat package or business profits. Even military men costs only $400 a month to hire! And which developed country can you find a cleaner for $650? To this group of people, they really cannot fathom what Singaporeans are complaining about. Most people are selfish and we cannot expect them to fight for the rights of others.

Anonymous said...

That sniggering idiot is back. Why not add derisive smile, sniff, snort etc you bloody clown. Why are you so hung up on that particular word "snigger"?

Anonymous said...

I'm tired of tyhe government's way of talking down to us. The tone used is berating. The government doesn't try and win our respect and trust by addressing critical issues and solving the citizens' problems. It's always "Look how much we have progressed in 40 years." Sure, but we're turning back the clock now. Stop harping on old glories. Every olympic athlete knows he's as good as his previous record. That's not the present, that's not what we are faced with every day. And transparency pls instead of this opaqueness and evasiveness.

Anonymous said...

I get sick in the stomach whenever a man who voluntarily served the Imperial Japanese Army gets referred to as "founding father of Singapore", while a true war hero like Lim Bo Seng and Lt. Adnan gets only a mention in the footnotes of our history books.

Anonymous said...

To anon 19.54

FYI when I was little, I remember one whole lesson on Lim Bo Sheng in the equivalent of a Moral and Civic textbook. It is a shame that such patriotic behaviour is shoved to the back and deemed irrelevant now.

On second thought, it might be perfectly understandable lest an unfortunate comparison is made against one of the founding fathers.

Snark said...

"That sniggering idiot is back... Why are you so hung up on that particular word "snigger"?"

Because his other name is Muttley? And he's an conceited commentard that thinks his tiresome doggerel is the the dog's bollocks of the blogosphere?

Anonymous said...

lee is a backside stabber all the time. In the past, he is one. Now he is one too.

Now he backstab all the Singaporeans whom have supported him before inorder to please the FT.

A leepord will never change its spots.

snark said...

Isn't it interesting that the Allied powers continue to this day to pursue and bring to justice the murderous little rats whose willing assistance kept the Nazis in business during the dark years of World War II?

11th August 2009: 90-year-old Josef Scheungraber found guilty of ordering the killing of 14 Italian villagers.
13th July 2009: 89-year-old Nazi war criminal John Demjanjuk charged with 27,900 counts of being an accessory to murder in World War II.

Isn't it interesting that two Singaporean collaborators of the Japanese Imperial Army continue to enjoy the very highest echelons of power and prestige in the nation to this day, and have done so for half a century without ever once having to explain their wartime conduct to the satisfaction of a judge and jury?

Anonymous said...

That sniggering idiot is a fcuking retard.

Note to "Snigger Idiot"- FYI DON'T read Lucky's blog if u hate him so much.

Snigger, I hope you have Cancer and that the bill comes more that $100,000. My friend's father passed away and this is how much she has to pay now by monthly installment. u think any govt body helped her?

Snigger, I hope when u reached 40 u will get retrenched/replaced by ft and end up as a labourer that earns $600/mth. When you are 80, you'll pick up cardboard boxes and aluminium cans from dustbins so that u can have 2 meals a day.

Snigger away you Sniggering idiot!

What Lucky Tan is saying in his blog that ur thick skull CANT understand is about the problems that hardworking ordinary Singaporeans are facing everyday.

If Singapore is such a paradise- why does Singapore has one of the highest emigration rate in the world?

Singaporeans cant vote out PAP but they are voting with their feet!

Anonymous said...

Grateful - showing feelings for a favour or gift. We are certainly not in that category of having received any favours or gift, so what is there to be grateful about??

I think those MIW should be the grateful ones, who enacted laws to bless themselves.

Anonymous said...

Oh well, as the saying goes, one man's meat is another man's poison. There are many people who are unhappy with the state of affair in Singapore. At the same time there are many more who are truly grateful for what PAP have done for them. We just have to be realistic. There is no likelihood that things will change in the near future. For those who really can't accept how the country is run, perhaps they should start looking around to see if there is another place that offer better alternative.

Anonymous said...

I missed Lucky old style of writing...

It was more humorous lol

Clear eyed said...

To the PAP, citizens here are just like lemons - squeeze them dry and discard them in JB. What appreciation or gratitude? Do we appreciate or feel grateful to the lemon we are squeezing? On the contrary the self-appointed "elites" berate us for not being grateful to them even as they squeeze us dry and paying themselves obscenely while doing so.

Benjamin said...

I would say it rather wrong and unrealistic to tell Singaporeans that should they be unhappy with their lot, they are welcomed to leave. Yes the appeal to go overseas is always and forever present. However reality is such that most Singaporeans want to go back to Singapore because 'that is where they truly belong'. I have friends right now with me in Australia who truly wish to go back home because they miss their friends, their families and they can't adjust that well to the foreign environment.

Yet for the many that leave Singapore, there are also just as many numbers who are UNABLE to leave the country despite them wanting to. Don't ever quote leaving as an option unless its available to the general population.

Consider this, if in the first place the country is without its current issues and that the standard of living is relatively inexpensive and affordable even for the most common of citizens, how many would choose to leave and never come back?

Why merely look at the upper ends of the social class and how they behave in times of crisis when you should be casting your eyes upon the opposite spectrum of society? You can judge a man's worth not by the way he treats his betters or equals but instead by the way he treats those who are worse off then him.

I believe that solutions should involve all if not majority of the population as every Singaporean has a stake in this country and that even they should be given a chance to voice their opinions on how things should be governed and why so.

Anonymous said...

i tell my papa that i shld be grateful to pap for what i have today.

my papa says you stupid or what, huh? i'm the one who brought you up!!!

Anonymous said...

I was the one who wrote the story.... I was also the one who put down the meaning of "snigger" in a previous comment.

I was trying to make him see some sense in his tone and way of commenting in this blog.

First of all, I think he has dropped the word "snigger" in his comments.

However, it is quite easy to identify him as he would keep harping about Lucky's "heroes" and he makes judgements about people without much justification. : )

Well, still got to admit, to each his own, anyway....just happy to say my piece.... : )

Anonymous said...

Anon @1143

Really enjoyed ur comment!!! : )

Simple but quite meaningful.....

Anonymous said...

This is so true...How many of today youth have ever heard of Lim Bo Seng or Lt Adnan? Every year we have the same old video of crying lee on the tv monitor during NDP...all the old guards should be highlighted rather than 1 person.

Anonymous said...

Hi Lucky,

can you please create an RSS feed for this site? This would be helpful to your many loyal readers out there.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I thought our leaders should be grateful to us, not the other way around.

We are paying them $1 million a year, for doing a job that most politicians would gladly do for 10% of the pay.

PAP expects to be paid millions a year in order to keep themselves honest. But yet, they expect us to behave the same way for 1/100 of their yearly pay.

And they are angry and surprised when security guards or maids, who are paid a mere pittance, give in to temptation to steal millions of dollars from their employers.

Boggles the mind.

Anonymous said...

if u insist ...

*snort*

So how many of you humble, hardworking, true blue Singaporeans believed in Lucky .. that you introduced your friends to this blog ... just me guess ... 0?

*snigger*

If u want me to pick cans at 80 ... u must ask the 66.6 1st.

*derisive smile*

Anonymous said...

That's why might is right. When they take millions, that's ok because they make the rules. Get used to it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 27/8/09 19:00

Good effort.
Except that
1. L's motives are clear
2. The MM Lee was the Obama of the 60s.
3. A thinks L deserves a bigger audience ... maybe so that A can have a bigger market for his hotDogs.

*snigger*

Oh ... L is a talented investor btw. 15 October!

just julie said...

My sentiments exactly.Well said, Lucky. I wish they can print your article for the morons to read.

Anonymous said...

Oh, the sniggering idiot is back.

If you have nothing constructive to contribute, pls get lost.

What makes you think you may not be picking aluminium cans one day and getting dumped in JB? I for one, will be most happy to witness it. You really test a person's patience.

The wheels of fortune turns and turns. Don't be so complacent. Nothing is predictable and forever.

It is a heartless government that can grow fat off the people and watch these pitiful singaporeans distribute flyers, busk, pick up litter etc. Death is the most level playing field. Everyone's score gets even out. And retribution follows. I will definitely keep you in mind 40 years down the road - will you be picking rubbish somewhere? Those who do not good cannot their blessings - whatever they touch turns to turd (just look at Ho Ching). Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Just as I expected from *snigger*...hahaha : )

Anonymous said...

Lately, quite honestly I am feeling it in my bones that unless Singaporeans take to the street en mass, the govt will continue to ignore the issues, afterall hadn't it been returned to power, power to continue their policies, however deleterius and poisonous to the general population the policies are.

Anonymous said...

Haha..I believe in retribution...ok..*snigger* may disagree...but one of these days, if your online persona is the same as real life persona, you will bound to experience some kind of rude, disrespectful and uncalled for behaviour from others....oh wait a minute....are you one of those people who are really suppressed people who are vastly different in real life......anyway, whatever it is...just hope that you realise that in this world, it is better to be constructive and polite at the same time....because you will bring a smile to somebody and make them listen....if you want to be constructive and rude or try to use some other means to get things your way.....you are no different from the elites.....of course, you may be aspiring to be one or are already one....if you still don't understand.......no choice...

anyway...most people in this blog...my own opninion is that we are hoping for a little compassion, a little irrationality or put it simply...a little more 'heart' in Singapore....what you are trying to incite...actually coincides with what is happening in Singapore...

Everything starts with self....obviously in Singapore..things are not looking good for most fronts....we need laws to care for parents...we need the state to take care of our $$$...we need not know how some people run the country....we got people telling us how to run a profitable charitable organisation...endorsed by some people......

All these little things have shaped us in small or big ways....that's why we called for a little compassion, a little 'heart' and a little respect from people.........

If you failed to see that from this blog......which from your behaviour...can see that you totally do no understand....well, nothing to say...because in this world....also cannot explain why there are serial killers, baby killers, perverts, people who kill innocent people, people who like to look down, be rude, be sarcastic, be superior, be ungrateful, be cynical, be obnoxious in every possible way to make other people feel bad...

Haha..I know there are people like that....but I still believe that being polite and gracious can go together with being constructive in behaviour.... : )

Anonymous said...

Sweeping statements made by arthur1 and niezh.......actually I believe the influences by the older generation played a bigger part in shaping the attitudes and comments by the younger bloggers being highly critical of the government....

All you have to do is talk more to taxi drivers, spend a longer time in kopitiams or watch Liang Ziqiang movies........

I know of many people who are in their 50s and 60s saying the same things about the government....

These 50s and 60s and older people belonged to a generation of resilient, resourceful and diligent people...that's why they can tahan or take it much harder than the younger people...but when you talk to them, they are also saying the same things i.e. what we are talking in this blog....income inequality, lack of transparency, HIGH influx of foreigners in a short time, lame excuses which borders on the point of "couldn't be bothered to explain" or "bo chap" attitude or even worse...u lesser mortal...me knows everything...so shut up and sit down.......

I think the older people also are feeling that way..not just the so-called young bloggers or people who are highly critical of the govt....

Seems like sweeping statements are the order of day....

Anonymous said...

Well said. Personally i believe the most passionate critics are those who are most concerned with the well being of Singapore. If not why would they waste their time and efforts and run the risk of being censured by the government? Many would have not bothered.

Anonymous said...

Yes, people may think Australia, Canada etc are better, but if Singapore doesn't have so little job security and all these problems, I would stay. This is where I grew up, I relate here. Sigh... guess just to think long term and be brave enough when the push comes to shove...

Anonymous said...

Hahaha Snigger u remind me of Golum repeating 'precious' ad nauseum.

I thought Golum was bad but u r worse. U r fcuking annoying and irritating like some sort of juvenile delinquent.

I think we ALL should call you 'Snigger the Golum'

I have a feeling that even in real life u r just incapable of making friends.

Anonymous said...

Could this be the scenario...
Place: Huge colonial bungalow..
Time: A week or two ago...
A very ol and weak company chairman was in pajamas receiving foot reflexology whilst wearing his ear phone listing to the live broadcast of his company meeting chaired by his elder son... Then a newly recruited young executive talking about the future of the company... The Old Man jumped out from his slumbering...Shouted at his body guard... Get Me to the Company.
Guard: Sir, you are not dressed up...
Old Man: What dressed up.. Lets go...
Whilst the first Guard held on to Old Man.. the 2nd Guard called the daughter in law...
2nd Guard: Mam.. Ah Gong wanted to go to company meeting, should we bring him there...
Madam: I told u idiots, Don't let him go and talk nonsense. Don't let him go.
2nd Guard: Ah Gong, Madam said cannot go..
Old Man: Tell her don't open her dirty mouth... No shame woman.. Lost so much money still want to talk. World most powerful woman.. my foot....
Old man just barked at his guard to bring him the car... The Guard then sounded up his colleague at the Company lobby...
he said: CRAZY man coming, in pajamas and slipper... Don't block him...
As the saying goes, the rest is history....

Anonymous said...

@snigger

Woh, someone is trying to act cute.

Anonymous said...

The advent of Internet truly break the monopoly they had over the local media.Internet represent democracy hence there is no way they can intervene . I wouldn't be surprise if they were to follow China to enforce people to have a regulator box !! .

Anonymous said...

I will be eternally grateful if :

a) Housing can be made afforable to us
b) Some policies once in a while to lessen our burden
c) carefully 'calibrated' the inflow of FT

Thank you very much

Anonymous said...

"I will be eternally grateful if :

a) Housing can be made afforable to us
b) Some policies once in a while to lessen our burden
c) carefully 'calibrated' the inflow of FT

Thank you very much"

AGREED!
but
modify b) with acceptable price increases;

add d)maintain a decent job market

---> i'd be very happy then

Anonymous said...

Should only allow foreigners from first world countries not third world countries. shame on you singapore for being so greedy.

Anonymous said...

time to show some gratefulness and appreciation to the elders.. the one that truly made the difference, not the ones on page 73, not the ones making 2million a year sitting around sprouting rubbish that are past his prime.

Its time for change.
If we keep doing what we have been doing, we will keep getting what we have been getting.

Change pple! Give change a chance!

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