Tuesday, January 19, 2010

Minister Shanmugam : Don't Blame Foreigners....

At a meet the people dialogue a citizen rose to express his concerns about the govt's liberal immigration policy which caused the price of housing to rise.

The Straits Times reported that "he complained" and the key message from Minister Shanmugam to the resident was: "it is unfair to cast foreigners as villian".

So that is the PAP govt's strategy now? Anyone saying that the expansion in population has led to high housing prices is COMPLAINING and UNFAIRLY CASTING FOREIGNERS AS VILLIANS.

So much for engaging the public with PAP's superior logic and intellect.

Actually, where is the logic anyway?

"The first misconception is that somehow there are five million people and that's putting pressure on all of us. It doesn't.'Of the five million, 3.2 million are citizens and roughly 500,000 are permanent residents (PRs). The remaining 1.3 million are here on temporary work permits and they 'impose no burden' on the public housing system" - Minister Shanmugam.

Yes, he expects us to believe an additional 1.8M people added to a land scarce island 'impose no burden on the public housing'. So where are those on work permits staying? At the beach? ...opps. those at the beach are ultra-underclassed displaced by PAP policy. People on work permits need a place to stay. They either rent rooms in HDB flats causing rental yields to rise - higher rental yields lead to higher prices. Some rent private condos - many sharing one unit. This pushes up the prices of private property making it unreachable for many families who now have to look for public housing.

What Shanmugam said is absurd. It is an insult to Singaporeans' intelligence.

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Don't Blame Foreigners[Link]

The Law Minister's key message: It is unfair to cast foreigners as the villains driving up the prices of HDB flats. --

PHOTO: BT MIDWAY through an hour-long dialogue with Law Minister K. Shanmugam on Sunday, 58-year-old Wee Kai Fatt stood up and gave voice to the claims of many coffeeshop pundits here.The senior engineer complained about the foreigner-fuelled population boom, saying he was shocked when he heard there were five million people living in Singapore. This influx of foreigners, he added, has caused HDB home prices to skyrocket.Taking it all in, Mr Shanmugam took pains to clarify what he said were several misconceptions in Mr Wee's statement.The Law Minister's key message: It is unfair to cast foreigners as the villains driving up the prices of HDB flats.Speaking at the end of his three-hour visit to Yew Tee constituency in Hong Kah GRC, he said: 'The first misconception is that somehow there are five million people and that's putting pressure on all of us. It doesn't.'Of the five million, 3.2 million are citizens and roughly 500,000 are permanent residents (PRs). The remaining 1.3 million are here on temporary work permits and they 'impose no burden' on the public housing system, said Mr Shanmugam, who is also the Second Home Affairs Minister.

149 comments:

Anonymous said...

Shanmugam lost his creditability by making those statements. I see no logic in his statements.

It is more like a denial statement against the flood of evidence.

Why is it so hard for the folks to admit and correct. We are all human.

You cannot apply the never-say-die-attitude in this way.

Anonymous said...

I agree. i only have a levels, and yet the first thot that came to me was, what crap. the 1.3million don't put on burden on the people? they sleep and shit in ministers' house is it?

Anonymous said...

btw, the people are not casting foreigners as villians.

listen up, pap are the villians!

antoinette said...

"Let them eat cake" is the traditional translation of the French phrase "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche", supposedly said by a French princess upon learning that the peasants had no bread. As brioche is a luxury bread enriched with eggs and butter, it would reflect the princess's obliviousness to the nature of a famine

Anonymous said...

Ya lah no problem for homeless singaporeans - we can always pitch tents at the beach since Singapore has a long coastline according to WKS...enough space for everyone

Anonymous said...

Shanmugam is an idiot.

The FTs are here for all our jobs! There are cheaper FTs working in all sectors; from engineering to IT to retail sales to cashiers to drivers.

None of these jobs are shunned by Singaporeans.

Shanmugam spends too much time in his law office. Maybe he would change his mind, if a China lawyer replaced him for 1/3 of his salary.

Lim Leng Hiong said...

"The Law Minister's key message: It is unfair to cast foreigners as the villains driving up the prices of HDB flats."

The government has been quite insistent in misrepresenting criticisms towards its foreign worker policy as xenophobia.

If somebody opens the floodgates so that his luxury yacht can float while the people are drowning, does it mean that the people "hate" the water?

"The first misconception is that somehow there are five million people and that's putting pressure on all of us. It doesn't... The remaining 1.3 million are here on temporary work permits and they 'impose no burden' on the public housing system."

Now they resort to bald-face assertion when they cannot come up with evidence to support their claims.

Things are slowly changing.

It used to be that government views were backed up by hard data while critics were just "complaining"; now the critics have data while the government simply bangs on the table.

Anonymous said...

Except at remote beaches at Sembawang or maybe in jungles, nobody pitch tents along the streets, in open spaces or housing estates yet.

Maybe that's why he conclude 5 million still OK, not crowded.

Wait till you are in Haiti, then you know. Hahaha.

Anonymous said...

I am very disappointed with the calibre and mentality of these pap politicians. The moment they are inside the pap arena, the huge banyan tree makes them stupid.

runroad said...

Here's what Carolyn Quek reported of Shanmugam's speech to law grads in the 16 July 2008 Straits Times:

" He was a science student in the National University of Singapore (NUS) but changed his mind when he saw in his first week that it involved hours and hours of laboratory work and even Saturday classes.

That was when he quickly switched courses - to law instead.

Addressing 350 new law graduates at NUS yesterday morning, Mr Shanmugam referred to himself as an 'accidental lawyer' who stumbled into law by chance.

'I thought to myself, I didn't come to university to work so hard,' he joked.

He then saw that a friend who was entering the law school had 'all but 14 hours of lectures a week' and thought that 'sounded much better'."


Now are you still surprised and shocked that the Singapore Government has got itself a Law MINISTER who can actually claim with a straight face that 5 elephants in a banana plantation puts NO pressure on resources because '3 are grey, 1 is black and 1 is a lovely shade of pink'? He dropped science and math, remember?

Amongst his other notable claims is: 'What do you think is the solution if we can't get Singaporeans who all speak English? Then we have to get foreigners...' Pay attention now Stinkies. YOU are the ones who begged to be served by complete idiots who cannot speak nor understand your language thus it is YOUR fault that the floodgates have been flung open to FTs. Understand now? Good.

The British contemptuous slang word for people like this 'top Singapore litigator' is prat, as in "You stupid prat!" Basically someone who's a major idiot, or is delusional and dumb, acts against logic and is self-righteous. Americans would call him a 'major dumbass'.

Anonymous said...

"Shanmugam lost his creditability by making those statements."

He doesn't have any credibility and integrity to begin with, so how can SHAM has lost them ? Does SHAM need logic ?

Anonymous said...

CREDIBILITY??? This Sham is the same PAP lackey whose wife divorced him after he was caught bonking in his law office! Why not ask him to COME CLEAN on this? LOL

Anonymous said...

"they 'impose no burden' on the public housing system"

No burden? Mr Shanmugam, who is also the Second Home Affairs Minister, does not know how the Housing Market works. For a Minister to display such ignorance is appalling.

If those who can't buy will rent. Besides increasing rental yields, they push up annual values used to calculate property tax. This is unnecessary burden on home owner-occupiers. The rebate for such owners is a lame cover up when in fact they should not pay any extra tax at all due to rental increases.

Anonymous said...

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous his statement becomes.

You blogger/aggregator guys should expand the housing problem to include unnecessary property tax increases for owner-occupiers as well because many of them do not know how their property tax is being calculated. There is a misconception that it is based on capital appreciation and so are hookwinked by this "500,000 only" logic.

Anonymous said...

The law Minister, the prime minister and the mentor minister are all right. We need the foriegners according to them.So we must listen and make sure every single citizens knows that too. Pass the message clear and loud. Make it a slogan..vote for PAP and you vote for more foriegners, esp PRCs.

Remember and tell everyone vote PAP, vote for more PRCs.

They have been right for 44 years and I believe them. I will vote for more foriegners.

Anonymous said...

This is the result of voting you in? Are you speaking on behalf of the people or foreigners? You affect people life and life is not any better but worse after all the policies are implimented. So if I cannot blame the government, the next better option will be foreigner. That is fullstop.

Anonymous said...

"People on work permits need a place to stay. They either rent rooms in HDB flats causing rental yields to rise - higher rental yields lead to higher prices. Some rent private condos - many sharing one unit. This pushes up the prices of private property making it unreachable for many families who now have to look for public housing."

I think the PAP should not punish foreigners for contributing to singapreans wealth.

They should reduce the number and ease our suffering.

Anonymous said...

Very easy way to determine whether Shan is correct--- come out with a statement that with immediate effect and no more PRs will be granted.......and lets us see reaction to the HDB resale prcs.

Anonymous said...

Let us also see reaction to jobs and social unrest.

Anonymous said...

foreigners should take buses and leave mrt to citizens.

i don't want to smell like socks when i step into the office as that would lower my productivity and drive the gdp southward.

Anonymous said...

thanks, runroad.

no wonder he preferred civil service especially as a law minister.

it probably involves much less work than working as a private lawyer, and yet pays obscenely more.

just like science students versus law students.

well done, singaporeans! you voted in an adulterous jiak liao bee.

Anonymous said...

as a bangali, i can understand bagali talk. actully, what the bangali is saying is, sg not so small like you think.

you see, from bangali eyes, we don't see forest we think there is a lot of space.

that's why lah. understand bangali logic!!!

Fievel said...

It might appear that Singaporeans are just "complaining" and "grumbling" when we say that the current batch of PAP leaders live in their ivory towers...but as it continues to show time and again within the last couple of months, the disconnection between the government and the people is REAL. They simply no longer have the ability to see what is going on. First thing that comes to their minds when anybody asks a question (other than paying them undeserved compliments) is - oh no, not another stupid complaint.

Anonymous said...

There are those temporary workers' quarter, but it's difficult to imagine there are enough for 1.3 million people.

Anonymous said...

The way I see it, Laws are for black people to formulate whilst yellow people are better at making money and the brown people tend to enjoy burning down house of worship!

All the in between like to cross pollinate or sow wild oats everywhere.

Anonymous said...

you forgot, stupid people tend to complain more.

Anonymous said...

Vote for more foreigners

Anonymous said...

"There are those temporary workers' quarter, but it's difficult to imagine there are enough for 1.3 million people."

1.3 million people are feeding the poor.

Clear eyed said...

Too long in their luxurious ivory towers, drowning in $$$, good food and good life has made them all stupid, blind and deaf and robbed them of their conscience. Time to replace the whole bunch of leeches.

Anonymous said...

We are being led by LIONS.

Be gratefool sheep!

Anonymous said...

He is right. Don't blame the foreigners. Blame whoever who open the floodgate.We do not blame the the car who bumps onto our car. We blame the driver who drives the car.

All these problems that we are facing now arises because they use GDP as a KPI in their performance.

Anonymous said...

"This Sham is the same PAP lackey whose wife divorced him after he was caught bonking in his law office!"

Now this very same Sham is bonking the citizen with his dicky nonsense.

Anonymous said...

The only complain I have about Shame is his accent. Other than that, he makes good curry.

Anonymous said...

is it true umpenay got bigger digs?

no wonder he is deep in foreign policies.

Anonymous said...

You know a Singaporean from a foreigner ifrom the question put to the Minister.

Can free entry to casino on national day or not?

Give me a foreigner anytime!

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

Yah, the typical Singaporean is a fiaking opportunistic asshole whose life revolves around school grapes, money and hdbs.

Anonymous said...

"1.3 million people are feeding the poor."

Lol! You mean the million dollar Ministers.

B-a-a-a-a-a-a!

Anonymous said...

Have you ever wonder who punctured tiny holes in the men's toilets( I heard this from my male colleague)?

I don't think we have provided sufficient social services to our guests.

I think the minister has to work more on the integration aspect..

Anonymous said...

Tiny holes are for locals . Bigger holes are for foreigners.
Foreigners are taking over our jobs even in that department!

Anonymous said...

Haaaaaaa

Anonymous said...

Hey, where are the hired pap commenters, lest hear them rebut this one.

Anonymous said...

Anon 16:42

His is a queen's accent with curry flavor. Very distinguish among his cohorts.

Anonymous said...

I hav no clue how he wins caes with that voice. Probably only hopping animals can understand him.

Anonymous said...

lky voice boomz. that's why he is king of the lions.

Anonymous said...

I think that even the third world countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos are developing and if Singapore cannot evolved into the next level, we will be just like an ordinary city. Hence PAP is gathering all resources for that BIG PUSH to GLOBAL CITY.

Think about it, without the CASINOS and 'liberation', we have NOTHING, NO NATURAL RESOURCES, OUR PEOPLE ARE OUTMATCHED BY THOSE FROM NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES and CHINA already. What else can we make for a living. THE WORLD OWES US NOTHING.

The point is, ARE SINGAPOREANS READY FOR THIS NEW WORLD ORDER...The answer is obvious. The past will never return again.

On the other hand... I will be terribly grateful if the PAP garhmen can help reduce our already very very heavy burden. ALmost breathless now. What can we do if this persists...erhhh VOTE FOR A CHANGE NO CHOICE !

Anonymous said...

pap has already lost their mandateto govern singapore. why can't they should leave the political scene in a peaceful way, for the betterment of singapore.

these pap lackeys are just there because of money. all of them are liers. the more they open their mouth to clarify. the more disgusting it will get.

Anonymous said...

Here's the fallacy in Shanmugam's reasoning..

Of the 3M Singaporeans, most ALREADY HAVE homes.

In the normal course of things, ONLY A SMALL PROPORTION of the citizens would be in the market for a new home, primarily newly weds who really have a tight budget.

So the ratio is not as small as what Shanmugam is saying: It's that small proportion of Singaporeans vs the 300k PRs and the 1.5M foreign workers

If only the Singaporeans were in the market, we wouldn't see this HUGE demand and spike in prices.

Geez. And Mah Bow Tan can say he was surprised by the demand.

And we are supposed to be paying for the best of the best of the best.

Anonymous said...

The oppositions are a bunch of useless idiots that will never bring changes to SIN so long the incumbent commands the lion's share in the house.And the incumbent will never change because nobody can stop them. The electorate will not act because they have resigned to their fate.
SIN has only one way to go which is CHARGE!
With these three independent forces, they form a perfect storm which no one knows the day of reckoning.

Anonymous said...

"In the normal course of things, ONLY A SMALL PROPORTION of the citizens would be in the market for a new home, primarily newly weds who really have a tight budget. "

What's the problem then? There are plenty of cheap resale in the market to meet their numer and yet they turn to BTO(which is not that cheap anyway)

Why?

The issue is not that homes are UNAFFORDABLE. The issue is homes are "UNPROFITABLE" or less profitable compared to BTO.
BTO is also newer and the design more current which makes it more attractive therefore foreigners are not to be blamed.

Their complain

Anonymous said...

we have very spolit, calculative and demanding young singaporeans. that's why they are perfect gambit for slamming the garmen.
who to put the blame on? you can blame the garmen and dissidents for spoiling them.

Anonymous said...

Dear anon 23:01,

Most people read the blog post before commenting. =)

Anonymous said...

5 times over subscribed for EXPENSIVE BTO flats?

my,my, young sing-a-long-leh are RICH!

Anonymous said...

ya lor,where got unaffortable how can blame foreigners.

foreigners are the good suckers muahahahaha

praise pap muahahaha

Anonymous said...

Shanmugam dserves a promotion for his brilliant reply.
We may have our own Obama after all.

Anonymous said...

On a different matter, a "freak" election outcome is in the making in Massachusetts today. The fact that Massachusetts is a one-party Democratic state and yet may elect a Republican senator is a big shock to the establishment. The rise of the challenger from an underdog to a poll leader in a short week is simply amazing.

Of course voters in Massachusetts are independent minded and have free access to a wide range of political and policy discussions. Still, the unfolding event in Massachusetts shows that the powers-that-be ultimately answer to their electorate in a democracy.

Anonymous said...

Lucky TAn,
u have so many PAP trolls of IB commenting and talking to themselves. You must be doing something very right. Keep it up, our LuckyBama !

Anonymous said...

Now how would you know unless wx flush you out? Oh no, no one is here except LUCKy tolking to himself
Hahahaha

Anonymous said...

Oh, go fuking get a life, in a place where there is no trust, you find nothing but lies. The only people here are jokers

ha ho Ha hi ha ho

Anonymous said...

Fiaking PAP trolls

Anonymous said...

$Still, the unfolding event in Massachusetts shows that the powers-that-be ultimately answer to their electorate in a democracy.$

Yes, that's why PAP always win LOL

Anonymous said...

U dun believe the gabbagemen u dun believe the toilet papermen u dun believe the no life only complain men u dun believe the anti pPmen u dun believe godly men u dun believe in statistics what do u believe then?

Show me the MONEY!!!!

Anonymous said...

I want more PRC girls..they are so hard driving and I can put my spur in her backside with the right amount.

Lim Leng Hiong said...

Wow, so many cryptic comments.

Have the government supporters given up trying? What happened to the usual accusations of "communist" and "separatist"?

Anonymous said...

I wish the PAP guys can bring some valid arguments if they disagree with Lucky. It would be good for all, including Lucky himself, to see some valid perspectives from both sides. I think Lucky has brought up some excellent points. I agree with him so far.

Anonymous said...

$Still, the unfolding event in Massachusetts shows that the powers-that-be ultimately answer to their electorate in a democracy.$

$$Yes, that's why PAP always win LOL$$

Don't take anything for granted. The Democrats just lost the "secured, shoo-in" senate seat to a previously unknown underdog. It was an extraordinary feat, or what some would consider a "freak" event in Singapore.

Anonymous said...

He is so smart, he is even trying to get another ministers portfolio, why doesnt he sort out his mess first?

http://dotseng.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/the-mumbo-jumbo-of-teaching-comparative-political-systems/

Anonymous said...

paying them millions of salary have made them yes-man to the emperor cos they are afraid of losing their rice bowls. when people act too often against their conscience, they became insane and uttered rubbish.

Anonymous said...

The world's higest paid politicans are repeatedly showing us how mediocre they actually are. I really find it hard to believe this is the quality such an obscene amount money can buy. For the amount we are paying them I could get the most brilliant minds from China & India. Know that's the kind of foriegn talent we really need and that in line with what the good minister said. Foriegners are only taking jobs Singaporeans do not want and the government has been lamenting on the lack of good people to enter politics. So lets get our monies worth and hire really world class Ministers.

Anonymous said...

"Don't take anything for granted. The Democrats just lost the "secured, shoo-in" senate seat to a previously unknown underdog. It was an extraordinary feat, or what some would consider a "freak" event in Singapore."

state is a more liberal country than Sg so don't count on it. the reign over here is far tighter and i am sure you don't need much convincing.

Anonymous said...

"state is a more liberal country than Sg so don't count on it. the reign over here is far tighter and i am sure you don't need much convincing."

It may be true with the older generation. But the younger generation has not witnessed any major crackdown in recent years. If similar events can unfold in Malaysia and Iran, it can certainly happen here. It is far harder to maintain power and control when information flows freely. TOC and blogs like this one have exerted an influence on public policies. Lately, the powers-that-be have been reactive and in the defensive rather frequently (e.g. FT, HDB.) This is inconceivable as recent as 10 years ago. People are more vocal now. Time has changed, slowly but surely, even here.

Alan Wong said...

If such a Law Minister can say such darndest things to defend a crap policy, I really doubt whether he can be called upon to defend the Rule of Law in Singapore.

I am beginning to suspect that our whole judicial system is not very much different from those in Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

If I have just one guest for one week, it puts stress on my household. How about 1.3+ million so-called guests (who may be permanent and compete for the same job) that household members do not like to have around??

Anonymous said...

Great!! I can see change.

Unless the people with power wants to play dirty. And I am afraid that they might.

Cos as always, nobody watches the watchmen but the watchmen themselves.

Anonymous said...

anon 15:05

i have to make a disclaimer.i am not very familiar with malaysia politics but judging from the surface, they have more rural folks who are very religious and not much sophistication compared to city folks. so it takes only a handful to rile things up in the north and it can develop into a pandemonium..

here, people are bounded by work, the education system and families which means, they will inevitably have to go with the flow set by the gov.

and TOC and others influences are just a side issue.anyone who makes sense and benefit the nation will grap the authority's attention - no big deal.

but on the political front, it is business as usual. unchanged.

as for the younger generation, definitely more vocal but if they have been systematically driven by the authorities, you are going to get the same mould and that, not a very encouraging sign.

Anonymous said...

i missed an important pt up north. there is a series of political scandals,incompetencies and major blunders that rocked their country.

i don't believe we have that kind of scandals or corruption(at least not on the surface) that will shake our political landscape in the way you have imagined.

Fievel said...

Why risk a corruption scandal when my boss Prime Minister Lee has already lined my pockets with such a generous salary the legal way? One might not even do as well financially via corrupt channels!

So ya, no scandals here.
As for incompetencies, that is simple to control by controlling the mass media.

Anonymous said...

there you have it, what change do you hope to achieve?

build more hdb flats? more shelters, walk ways and lift upgrading?

the astronomical salary stays!

Onlooker said...

Nobody is blaming the Foreigners.We are blaming the "open with loads of levy" policy that bring in loads of cheap labour without consideration for the potential problems.

In other countries, Conscription always includes Immigrants.Why deprive them a chance to serve with Singaporeans.
I'm sure this will work better than any integration program.

BUT Wait that mean the new immigrants will know that "Elite Children" and sample examples models will automatically become Occifer.And tuang in office all day playing online game.Maybe all new citizen all auto occifer, no?

That is their meritocrazy.

What to do? meritocrazy happened....It is all about the guanxi.....

Anonymous said...

Honest feedback and I will move on after that:

You won't go very far by only harping on sky-rocketing HDB prices because you are positioning yourselves against homeowners.

To get them on your side, you need to find a reason for them to support your cause, a common ground. Hit them where it hurts most - their pockets - to wake them up to the torrent of foreigners driving up costs of ownership.

So far, I haven't come across anyone of you doing that because you have been approaching the issue from only your point of view.

In short, you need to get the existing homeowners on your side.

Anonymous said...

"You won't go very far by only harping on sky-rocketing HDB prices because you are positioning yourselves against homeowners."

that's why opposition leaders and their runners are morons and a bunch of idiots and the pap idiots are laughing in the corner of their rathole!lol

Aurvandil said...

"You won't go very far by only harping on sky-rocketing HDB prices because you are positioning yourselves against homeowners."

The inability of the HDB building program to keep pace with our growing population sparked off the current boom in property prices. Due to the time lag for new supply to reach the market, a destructive boom-bust cycle has been set up. The effects of this boom-bust cycle are worsened by the policy to build HDB flats at an artificially slow rate.

After the boom-bust cycle has run its course, we will have a small group of people who would have enjoyed large windfall profits. We will have a much larger group who will be looking at large paper losses and who will be saddled with a high debt burden for possibly the rest of their lives.

Anonymous said...

"After the boom-bust cycle has run its course, we will have a small group of people who would have enjoyed large windfall profits. We will have a much larger group who will be looking at large paper losses and who will be saddled with a high debt burden for possibly the rest of their lives."

boom-bust is history or can be history if you don't think like the opposition(some at least)!

in the interests of the majority, i hope sg will defend stability(can be done) irrespective of which direction the cycle takes and still remain an investment haven because of unflinching confidence in our more equitable sharing of prosperity.

Jurong said...

It is not wiser to blame foreign people.Foreigners play vital role in Singapore's tourism Industry and its economical growth.

Anonymous said...

The Leaders are lions and the people are sheeps, claimed SM Goh Chok Tong. So, unless the people make themselves into tigers, the lions will devour the sheeps when they are hungry. When their beastly natures become active, they(leaders) will maul and frolick with their preys.
The tigers will give the lions a good fight to have their homes in the land and be equal(balanced).
Be tigers or sheeps, singaporeans have have a choice.

Anonymous said...

Why blame foreigners when all the blunders are made by the policymakers ???

Anonymous said...

"Don't cast protest vote"

"But if Mr Mah loses to the opposition, he warned that Singaporeans better sell their flats fast as it would no longer be of any value."

[http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_482991.html]

With such a threat, who do you guys think homeowners will vote for?

See the need to get them on your side? How? By harping on home prices all the time?

Sarcastic said...

Shanmugam is right. Don't blame the foreigners.

Instead, blame:
1) PAP for their policy that led to so many foreigners.
2) the 66.6% who voted for PAP to allow so many foreigners in.
3) the 33.4% for not doing enough to convince the 66.6% not to vote for PAP and allow so many foreigners in.
4) the citizens in walkover wards for not willing to just contribute $2 each to the oppositions so that their ward can be contested and render GRCs ineffective, thus resulting in PAP allowing so many foreigners in.
5) yourself for getting exactly the government you deserve due to your action/inaction.

flat rental said...

No, don't blame them. Blame the politicians. Lol...

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