Sunday, November 07, 2010

A young man's plight.

Something is very wrong with Singapore if this young man does not get his citizenship.

While the govt hand out thousands of citizenships to new citizens who are here, more often than not, for pure economic reasons and do not serve NS, they denied citizenship to an NSman , Ogawa Ryuju, due to procedure. It is not hard to understand how he can be confused over his citizenship status. Having received his pink IC from MP Heng Chee How and receiving notices to serve his reservist duties, he thought that he has Singapore citizenship and went on to renounce his Japanese citizenship. But it turned out that there was some other technicality involved requiring pledge taking before age 21 which he missed....now he is not a Singaporean.

Read his story below. I think he deserves his Singapore citizenship as much anyone else. Now it is up to the authorities to do their part....are they robots that follow rule mechanically or are they able to overcome their own rules so that the outcomes are fair and just.

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http://kelzinho.livejournal.com/3588.html
Singaporean or Not Singaporean? That is the Question..
By Ogawa Ryuju

When i was told that i am no longer a Singaporean citizen, i was appalled that such complications can happen to someone who has served the nation in national service and has been living IN Singapore for more than 15 years, i know that some of you might be thinking, "what do you mean no longer a Singaporean?", well let me start my story from the very interesting beginning.

My name says it all. As you can see, I'm not what you might call an average Singaporean, it all started when my mother, a Singaporean, wishing to seek more experience for herself travelled to japan 30 over years ago to open up a pub called "Singapore", where she met my father. Wishing to bear a child, as ludicrous as it may sound, an agreement was made between them to have me with a branded watch as a reward for my father, well that sums up what an independent spirit my mother is. We went along fine for about 2 years, and as my mom runs her pub, my dad would step in as a caretaker at home. An incident occured when my dad and his friends left me at home and left the door ajar, i guess being a curious 2 year old child i decided to explore the beautiful outside world of Japan, and being 2 years old, being lost when you're alone is bound to be a part of the equation, so as i roam the world looking for my mother, a stranger (a regular of my mother's "Singapore") recognizes me and brought me to "Singapore"! (according to my mom, i kept repeating the word "Singapore" so it was pretty lucky he didn't send me to the airport!). Seeing me in a strangers arm angered my already strong willed mother and an argument was sparked between my mom and dad. Begrudgingly, we packed our bags and left Japan and came back to Singapore so that i can be closer to my familly here, the Japanese “Singapore” was still around, and god love my mother for her sacrifices as she painstakingly travelled between this 2 great nations for her job and her child, and this went on for about 3 years.

Wanting a paternal role model for me, my mom finally thought that we had found the perfect person to join our interesting family while she was in Japan and decided to settle down with then my stepfather. “Singapore” in Japan served its last drink, and our family was finally complete as they move to Singapore to start a fresh new life here with me, 2 years went on as we live our life happily. But things took a turn when my stepdad parents wanted us to move in with them in Japan, once again our suitcases was called for duty as we packed for Japan, I had just completed my primary 1 education here when we left.

Things did not turn out to be as happily ever after as we had hoped it to be. Though it seemed like we finally had our complete family, most of the time, my mom and i was an outsider looking in, being a “Step” grandchild wasn't easy, especially with a conservative “Step” grandparents to work with, the biased treatment that my mom and i received from our Japanese attached family was blatant, we had average meals while my stepdad dine with luxury, and i was confined to the house while other kids my age was playing outside. I repeated my primary 1 education in Japan, and things in school was just as bad, being “UnJapanese”, i was constantly bullied and taunted by my classmate for being different. Push comes to shove, my mom had enough and finally stood her ground and left my stepdad, and our loyal suitcases was once again called to move on to Singapore.

So, at the age of 10, with a third grade Japanese education, and no understanding of written english, I was enrolled back to school here in primary 2, and as you might guessed it, school life wasn't all peaches here either, not only was i older than everyone else in class, i was still considered an outsider due to my paternal heritage, so the taunting and bullying continues here, but school and life in general goes on, not without difficulty, but we persevered as a family, and though it was tough, my mom and i had a blast, just the 2 of us.

My mom applied for a 3 room HDB flat, and to support our little family, my mom drove a taxi for a living, at times with me alongside her (the suprised look of her passengers faces when they saw a mini assistant to the driver still puts a smile on my face when i think back!), and this went on for a couple of years, and because of her love for children, my mom trained herself how to twists balloon and do face painting so that she can start something of her own here, in the year 2000, she started her own balloon entertainment company called BalloonArts, and things were good, in 2007, although i only finished my N'Levels education, being older than my schoolmate, the call of duty to serve the nation comes, and i went through what most of our male Singaporeans do, Natoinal Service, being half Japanese and serving the army got the attention of the press, that it was even published in a local newspaper!, it was one of my proudest moments as a Singaporean, next to being on stage and shaking hands with a Member of Parliament Mr. Heng Chee How As i took my oath and received my Pink IC on stage at an acceptence ceremony, I remember proudly thinking to myself, finally, this is home, and i belong here, i decided to renounce my Japanese citizenship at the age of 21, and be a full pledge Singapore citizen, for there's no other place that i would call Home.

Things when on fine for a few years, until recently, when i went to the ICA to renew my Passport, i was informed that I was no longer a Singaporean, because i did not take my pledge, and that i could no longer stay here in Singapore, i felt betrayed, unjustified, and most of all, i felt lost, i finally have the chance to take over my mothers company so she can retire, and i finally can move on with my life when all of it is taken away from me, i am now stuck with a dilemma with no obvious solution, i can't go back to Japan for i had renounce my citizenship there for Singapore, but i can't stay or do anything here because officially, I'm not a Singapore citizen, and unfortunately, i can't go anywhere else because i do not own a passport anymore. In hopes to settle this predicament, i went to my local MP, Mr. Lee Boon Yang, to see if he could help me with this issue. Though with his good graces, Mr. Lee help me send a request to reinstate my citizenship, it was rejected due to a no provision law, not wanting to give up, i went to seek the help of another MP, 1 that had shooked my hands as i received my NRIC Mr. Heng, and as my status as a Singaporean lingers as the unknown, i hope that i can settle this issue as soon as possible.

Not Local, Not Foreign, i wonder what my outcome would be.


"We, the citizen of Singapore"

My pledge was not taken because i got confused by an inaccurate information given to me on my Citizenship. I took my first pledge from the SAF when i was enlisted into the Army, My second pledge was taken when i received my Pink IC from the MP for Jalan Besar GRC, Mr Heng Chee How during the Citizenship Ceremony on the 20th June 2008.

And as for the inaccurate information I have mentioned earlier, this was how it went:

11 Jan 2010,
I needed to travel overseas but my passport had expired, so i went down to the ICA(Passport @ 2nd Level) to renew my passport. I was told that i am not able to renew my passport until i have renounced in the Oath-Taking ceremony in regards to my Japanese citizenship before the age of 22. (I did managed to get my passport extended for a month after I questioned the ICA staff, "I need my passport to travel back to Japan to renounce my citizenship, don't I?" however I did not make it to Japan because the trip is too expensive in such a short notice.)

15 July 2010,
I renounced my Japanese citizenship at the Embassy of Japan(in Singapore), the Embassy gave me a letter stating that Ihave renounced my citizenship but it is under currently under process. From a normal human being's point of view, If you are told to renounce your citizenship, the word 'process' does not mean 'completed'. So i waited for Embassy of Japan to send me a letter to confirm that the renouncement of my Citizenship in Japan has been completed however, as of today, I have not received any notice.

4th Oct 2010,
I promised a friend to travel to Hong Kong to catch LUNA SEA's live concert. We bought the tickets to the concert and I made my way down to the ICA(Passport @ 2nd Level) again to renew my passport with the 'Renounce in Process' letter. They referred me to the 6th level as they claimed this is not within their scope. I proceeded to the 6th Level and showed them the letter. This was when they told me that I am no longer a singaporean because i did not take the Oath Taking and i was already 22 years old. They also mentioned that i could have taken my pledge with the 'Process' Letter which i was not informed of at all earlier.


I explained to the officer that i have not received any letter from the ICA regarding the Oath Taking. Tthe only letter I have received was on the Oath Taking during the Citizenship Ceremony with Mr Heng Chee How. They claimed that they have sent two reminders about my Oath Taking; first reminder was on 31 August 2009 which was my 21st Birthday (however, I did not receive any) and the second reminder was six months after my 21st birthday via a postman as a registered mail, which I believed no one was home during that point of time and the postman supposedly left a note for me to collect the mail at the Post Office however I never received this note. They also informed me that the second reminder was bounced back to the ICA and they showed it to me with a statement written 'Unclaimed'.

I explained to them that i was given inaccurate information from the Officer i spoke to at the Passport Section @2nd Level, they responded saying that they are a different Section and I should have gone up to the 6th Level to obtain correct information. I felt very unjustified as they ceased my Singapore citizenship after all the effort I went through to renounce my Japanese citizenship and despite my truthful explanation, they are nonchalant towards the fact that the ICA Passport Section was the one that gave me incorrect information. If I had received clear and accurate information in the first place, my pledge would have been taken promptly and I would not have become stateless as I am now.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

this story makes me sad and mad..what a crazy system !

Anonymous said...

he should go find our PM LHL, those other MP are just too slow, do too little to help

sgcynic said...

So, what is the pink IC for? Identification only!? What is the difference between pink and a blue one then?

Alan Wong said...

Interesting, isn't it ? Does it mean he is stateless now ?

If after reinstating his citizenship, I suppose our PAP govt can then claim some credit for being magnanimous provided he does not prove he is anti-establishment like CSJ..

By the way, can any country have the power to strip the citizenship of any person for any particular reason ?

We knew in the past our PAP govt has stripped the leader representing the pilot union his PRship for some reason that has never been revealed to the public.

Can a Govt afford to be vindictive towards its own citizens or residents ?

Anonymous said...

Ai ya, following the letter of the rule is so much easier than following the spirit of the rule.

You think what will they follow?

Anonymous said...

Who is the real Singaporean here? One is prepared to get his hands dirty and undergo 2-years NS hardship and committed to defend our nation, or those who come here on fast track to citizenship with either money to throw or purported "talents", but whose inclination to stay at the whiff of any trouble lies in doubt?

Kojakbt said...

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother...


- Henry V, William Shakespeare

Lye Khuen WAy said...

Man ! What a shame ! This chap did his NS, received his "Citizenship Cert " and for some very BIG ommission, is now NOT a Singaporean. Maybe we all got it wrong. So maybe, we should let the ICA's big boss tell us their side of the story.

Seem that they just had new directives to stop , revert any new citizenship. No ?

Anonymous said...

How many more such Singaporeans served NS with genuine intentions, butwere left in limbo thanks to PAP's cock ups?

Anonymous said...

simple make a promise who you will vote for and you will get your citizenship, quick quick do it b4 election

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the govt is using this story to demostrate to the local singaporeans how precious being singaporean is.

If that is so, the local government is very very 'low class'

Anonymous said...

Some aspects of the system LKY and his papist gangsters created are evil. This is one of them.

Anonymous said...

he only has N levels! he ain't no foreign talent!

(i hope people realised this was written in sarcasm)

Anonymous said...

this is just a simple case of bureaucrats behaving like robots.

Following rules like a computer.

They do not understand their decision can create upheaval in someone else life.

Anonymous said...

he should've gone to japan or the japan embassy within the 1 month grace period, and follow up or ask for another extension

he didnt do that, thus creating a room/excuse for bureaucrats to make him kana for him non compliance

nothing is more serious than renouncing citizenship, knowing that how serious it can be when one does not follows rules in sg, some how, i think he did not look at it seriously

geelo said...

Could it be some little Napoleon or little LKY in ICA decided to show that he has power to make the life of ordinary citizen miserable? The really sad thing is, it seems that even the MP is not taking this matter seriously.

Anonymous said...

Re annon 7/11/10 21:58

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he should've gone to japan ....

he didnt do that.....

...knowing that how serious it can be when one does not follows rules in sg, some how, i think he did not look at it seriously
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If a female member of your family got rape, would you have her for wearing too sexy...

The victim blaming of PAP stooge is really wicked. Nowaday Singaporean was blame for everything under the sun, and PAP was praise for whatever evilness they did.

Anonymous said...

PAP love rich foreigners like Gong Li and Jet Li.

They merely spend say 1 day in Singapore per year and park their wealth in Singapore to avoid the high Tax rate in China and use the Singapore passport for travel convenience.

Your lovely minister will shake hands with them, take pictures with Jet Li and Gong Li.

Low qualifying pseudo-Singaporeans are valued for their warm body only, fit to feed the SAF NS machine.

DEATH TO PAP

Anonymous said...

Stupid bureacrats.

Anonymous said...

Ha, what a shame!! I am totally pissed with the decision & I feel so sorry for Ogawa. This shouldnt happen to one of us! There are so many FTs got their PRs & citizenship just by visiting Sentosa or 'investing' a few millions here!! These people have never done NS & probably couldnt even tell the difference between chendol & ice kacang!!

While citizenship is given freely to celebrities like Jet Li, I am just wondering what he has done for Singapore so far. I really hope Ogawa could resolve this & get on with his life. And I am proud to have him as a fellow Singaporean.

Anonymous said...

well, the thing is, Singapore is a well-oiled, and highly processed-based administration. Thats the only way to get things done quickly.

This guy's case - was a little out of the ordinary. With our civil servants, not wanting to push the envelope and the cover-my-backside-first-let-someone-senior-make-decision-otherwise-i-get-fired-for-any-mistake mentality, i'm not surprised this has happened.

i'm sure eventually it'll work out for him.

Anonymous said...

I detest foreign trashes that come here for a free ride. But this chap is not a FT. He did NS and I would say he's as Singaporean as any of us. May the forces of good prevail. dt

Ghost said...

I don't think its right to blame the PAP for this. After all both Lee Boon Yang and Heng Chee How are helping Ogawa Ryuju on his case, and both are PAP MPs.

Anonymous said...

Re Ghost
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I don't think its right to blame the PAP for this. After all both Lee Boon Yang and Heng Chee How are helping Ogawa Ryuju on his case, and both are PAP MPs.
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Obviously you are not aware of power dynamics.

If power elites like Lee Boon Yang really wants to stick their head out for the boy, things will get push through. Obviously there are not helping except to put up a show by writing a few page of letter.

Power elites do not have to follow the normal rules and regulations a peasants.

Anonymous said...

Re Ghost

A very simple example of power elites getting their way regardless of law.

Parliamentary Elections Act forbade unauthorized persons to loiter within 200 metres of polling stations on polling day.

Our CJ Chan Sek keong, then AG exonerated PAP for their trespasses. He stated that the law "did not apply to unauthorized persons who were inside the stations."

The advantage of talking to Lee Boon Yang is that NOTHING IS AN EXCUSE. Everything maker knew that of course peasants have to be kept in the dark and made to believe that no one is above the law.

When people like Lee Boon Yang cannot get such simple thing redress, it can be duly assume with good reason that he is not helping at all.

Anonymous said...

they only want people who are like jim rogers or ferguson, able to vie for our pM role. one day, we will have a white pm.

Anonymous said...

Rubbish system we have here. Denying a guy who serves the country of citizenship, converting PRs who are nothing like us and treat our citizenships as stepping stones! Infuriating indeed!

It's not PAP fault? Really? Who sets the rules then?

Anonymous said...

I am renouncing my Singapore citizenship soon. If it is transferable, I can transfer mine to him.

Anonymous said...

ICA must buck up its service. Such conduct is unacceptable.

Anonymous said...

I think they found out he is poor, his mom is poor, unlike the standchart CEO who is rich!!

Anonymous said...

I agree that we MUST not put PAP at fault here. We have a strong civil service that has to be independant of PAP and any govt of the day. In this way, we will feel more confident to let PAP go without feeling its going to be the end of the world cos our civil service is goood enough.

Anonymous said...

Give foreigners citizenship you guys complain. Don't give also complain. If the guy ignored a couple of reminder letters or the letters were sent to a wrong address, then it must be some PAP evil or there must be some idiots who need to be castrated.

MP never help, complain.. MP help, they are the power elites who are going above the law..

And a whole torrent of abuse given to something that is procedural and wouldn't have happened if the process is duly carried out. And even if the process is a problem, how does that generate such vindictive remarks?

I mean per chance you forgot to say 'thank you' to a service provider and the person in turn labels you a good for nothing nincompoop who is badly brought up, you think that is reasonable?

Kojakbt said...

>> While citizenship is given freely to celebrities like Jet Li, I am just wondering what he has done for Singapore so far.

We can get Jet Li to sign up as part-time PTI for SAF and help out administering IPPT for reservist...

May be he can also help teach our NS men some Shaolin Kung Fu...

Anonymous said...

Some stupid guys really do not understand what is human nature.

Public figures are sujected to judgement every where,name me one place that people are so grateful and kow tow to some great ones for ever.

What is human nature?if you are afraid of heat,then do not bother to go into kitchen.You have the choice,

Grow up,Kid,do not talk like an adult,you are just a stupid kid,that is my humble view!

From an old but aged man.65 years of age

passingby said...

screwed up public service system

so then if there is a reservist call up. should he go or not go ???

Anonymous said...

To Anon 19:48

Based on your reasoning, if a person has a toothache, your solution is to chop his head off. If people question you why your answer would be "solve your toothache you complain, don't solve your toothache you also complain!"

You may stick your head in the sand and continue to believe that you are always right and anyone question you are always wrong.

Anonymous said...

"Some stupid guys really do not understand what is human nature.

Public figures are sujected to judgement every where,name me one place that people are so grateful and kow tow to some great ones for ever

What is human nature?if you are afraid of heat,then do not bother to go into kitchen.You have the choice,"

Yes, it is human nature to judge and it is also human nature to fart. If you are saying you're passing judgement just because you have to, then fine. Afterall, opinions are like your backside, everyone has one.

"Grow up,Kid,do not talk like an adult,you are just a stupid kid,that is my humble view!

From an old but aged man.65 years of age"

I try very hard to understand why you have to say you're 65. Are you trying to tell me somehow just because you're 65 that you actually know something? And that people younger than you have to kow tow to your farts?

Anonymous said...

"Based on your reasoning, if a person has a toothache, your solution is to chop his head off. If people question you why your answer would be "solve your toothache you complain, don't solve your toothache you also complain!"

I wasn't trying to reason. I'm merely pointing out that regardless whether govt do or not do, you guys will complain. How did you derive a solution from that?

"You may stick your head in the sand and continue to believe that you are always right and anyone question you are always wrong."

I never said I'm right or wrong.
I never said anyone who question me is always wrong.

Can you try and read properly please.

SG Girl Next Door said...

He's served NS. Certainly he deserves a citizenship.

Anonymous said...

Kid,I was waiting for your response,and I got it.

Kid,I was trying to tell you a fact of life.Actually,if you check around,in average,on every issue,50% would say yes and 50% would say no,that is human nature,and that is why in any normal country,the political divide is always almost 50-50.

For this issue,I personally I did not have a position,because I do not feel it is important for me to comment.

But for you to be here,even you are just of kid's mind,I am sure you know most of those(it is not 50-50,more like 99-1 ha) who come here are not happy with the establishment,so what do you expect?

But kid,all is not lost,for pro-establishment,the editors of our 154th ranking press would make sure that mostly or almost all pro-establishment viewes are printed,I am very sure that you know how to get there,do you?

That is what I want to say,whether you take it,that is not important to me.

Now I hope you know that I am the type who do not agree absolutley with yr view,but pl be assured that would deadly defend yr right to say it.Ha.

Kid,grow up!

And I am really thankful,grateful for this opportunity.

An old but aged 65 years old

Trebuchet said...

He can apply under section 123 of the constitution to be a citizen. There should be no problem. The main thing is that there is a legal situation, and he can rectify it by legal means. Most countries have situations under which a person might lose citizenship, renounce it, or reclaim it. I think this guy is making too much fuss without bothering to actually READ UP.

I myself have been in exactly the same situation, except that I did the paperwork in time. It is not difficult.

Trebuchet said...

I really dislike it when people read this sort of story, don't bother to read up to find out what the actual situation is, and then make comments about the legal system. It's not a one way system.

Heck, you can find all the info here even:
http://opm.gov/extra/investigate/IS-01.pdf

Anonymous said...

Re Trebuchet ...
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He can apply under section 123 of the constitution to be a citizen. There should be no problem....

....I think this guy is making too much fuss without bothering to actually READ UP.
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I think you are a idiot. How you expect someone like him to be well-informed in immigration rules.

Apparently I dont think 90% of ICA civil servant is aware of that, else those ICA officers could have given him due advice.

Not even big shots talent elite like Lee Boon Yang is aware of that, and neither Minister Lee was bothered helping to find out such rules.

You are really those wicked victim basher.

Anonymous said...

"But for you to be here,even you are just of kid's mind,I am sure you know most of those(it is not 50-50,more like 99-1 ha) who come here are not happy with the establishment,so what do you expect?"

I appreciate that you are trying to teach me a fact of life and I am quite aware that '99-1 ha' are not happy. So what do I expect.

Well, number 1, in order to be credible, you have to at least be coherent. Give complain, don't give also complain. Help complain, don't help also complain. I can only conclude you're not interested in the system, you just hate the govt. That is ok, but you cannot then be taken seriously.

Number 2, there is a process in place. I read there should be two reminder letters. Anything wrong with that process? If a thousand letters go out and one or two got lost in transition, does that mean the system is broken? If one or two letters got lost, does that justify vilifying the entire govt? Do you even know for an fact if they just ignored those letters?

"But kid,all is not lost,for pro-establishment,the editors of our 154th ranking press would make sure that mostly or almost all pro-establishment viewes are printed,I am very sure that you know how to get there,do you?"

Yeah I buy the occasional ST, what's your point? That you know it's pro-estab and everybody else doesn't?

"That is what I want to say,whether you take it,that is not important to me.

Now I hope you know that I am the type who do not agree absolutley with yr view,but pl be assured that would deadly defend yr right to say it.Ha.

Kid,grow up!"

What view? Just because I said you shouldn't argue from both sides of your mouth means I'm pro-estab, pro-PAP?

Where did you learn comprehension?

Anonymous said...

"I think you are a idiot. How you expect someone like him to be well-informed in immigration rules."

If you decide to pack up and leave for another country tomorrow. You wouldn't make sure you understand that country's immigration rules?

Or in this case, you're still a foreign citizen who is making the transition to citizenship, you don't read, you don't ensure the paper work is done properly? You think it is the onus of a foreign govt to do your paperwork and ensure that you get into the country without fuss?

Who is the bigger idiot?

Anonymous said...

RE Anoon 9/11/10 12:25
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If you decide to pack up and leave for another country tomorrow. You wouldn't make sure you understand that country's immigration rules?

... you don't read, you don't ensure the paper work is done properly? You think it is the onus of a foreign govt to do your paperwork and ensure that you get into the country without fuss?

Who is the bigger idiot?
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Of course the mother of all idiot is our scholar civil servant, and elite minister.

This ex-Jap must have been in and out of ICA, the super talent scholar civil servant cannot even give due advise, the minister Lee cannot even refer him to right person.

How many migrants really understand immigration law? I think not much (dont believe u ask those recent PR whore in Geylang). Its the duty of civil servant to provide advice.

Anonymous said...

"How many migrants really understand immigration law? I think not much (dont believe u ask those recent PR whore in Geylang). Its the duty of civil servant to provide advice."

There are thousands of PRs, how did they get here?

Anonymous said...

This is already the 2nd case highlighted in the media. The first case is below. I wonder how many more cases there are!!!


Mon, Jan 05, 2009
The New Paper
Man loses S'pore citizenship
By Arul John


HIS mother blames herself for being forgetful. And the result of her forgetfulness is that her son now has no country to call his own.

Mr Vadiveloo Rajamuthi was born in Malaysia, but has lived in Singapore since he was 3.

He claims he did not know he had to take an oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty after turning 21 if he wanted to remain a Singapore citizen.

His mother, Madam Karuppayee Arumugam, got a written reminder, but forgot to tell him about it.

That lapse caused Mr Vadiveloo to lose his Singapore citizenship in 2003 and he is now stateless.

Mr Vadiveloo, who does odd jobs, now lives here with a Special Pass from the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), which is renewed annually.

Two appeals to ICA for citizenship or permanent residence were unsuccessful, and his family now hopes an appeal to the Ministry of Home Affairs will help.

Mr Vadiveloo was born in Johor Baru on 24 Jan 1976, and was registered as a Singapore citizen in 1980.

His father, a Singaporean, was working in Johor at the time of his birth. Mr Vadiveloo's elder brother, MrMurugan, 34, was born in Singapore and is a Singapore citizen.

In 1979, the family moved back to Singapore.

Mr Vadiveloo said he got a Singapore IC when he turned 16 and it was a pink one.

After finishing his National Service in 1996, he worked at various jobs. He last worked full-time as a security guard for a firm near Jurong Island.

Madam Karuppayee, 58, said that in 1997, she received a registered letter at the three-room HDB flat she and Mr Vadiveloo share near Balestier Road.

She said: 'I signed for the letter but did not know what it was for. A relative later told me that it was from the Immigration Department and was for Vadiveloo.

'My son was working near Jurong Island and did not come home every day. When he came home, I forgot to tell him about the letter as I was not well at the time.'

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

No longer citizen

Madam Karuppayee claims that she told the officer that she did not give the letter to him then and he was now in jail.

After Mr Vadiveloo was released from jail, he was shocked to be given a special pass instead of his pink NRIC.

He said: 'The ICA officers said I was no longer a Singapore citizen because I did not take the oath. When employers see my pass, they don't want to hire me because they do not know my citizenship.

'I cannot easily travel because of the restrictions of the pass.'

As he cannot hold down a regular job, Mr Vadiveloo and his family have relied on their savings as well as financial help from friends and colleagues.

Madam Karuppayee approached Jalan Besar MP Heng Chee How twice to appeal to ICA to reinstate her son's Singapore citizenship but both appeals were unsuccessful.

Anonymous said...

This is already the 2nd case highlighted in the media. The first case is below. I wonder how many more cases there are!!!


Mon, Jan 05, 2009
The New Paper
Man loses S'pore citizenship
By Arul John


HIS mother blames herself for being forgetful. And the result of her forgetfulness is that her son now has no country to call his own.

Mr Vadiveloo Rajamuthi was born in Malaysia, but has lived in Singapore since he was 3.

He claims he did not know he had to take an oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty after turning 21 if he wanted to remain a Singapore citizen.

His mother, Madam Karuppayee Arumugam, got a written reminder, but forgot to tell him about it.

That lapse caused Mr Vadiveloo to lose his Singapore citizenship in 2003 and he is now stateless.

Mr Vadiveloo, who does odd jobs, now lives here with a Special Pass from the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), which is renewed annually.

Two appeals to ICA for citizenship or permanent residence were unsuccessful, and his family now hopes an appeal to the Ministry of Home Affairs will help.

Mr Vadiveloo was born in Johor Baru on 24 Jan 1976, and was registered as a Singapore citizen in 1980.

His father, a Singaporean, was working in Johor at the time of his birth. Mr Vadiveloo's elder brother, MrMurugan, 34, was born in Singapore and is a Singapore citizen.

In 1979, the family moved back to Singapore.

Mr Vadiveloo said he got a Singapore IC when he turned 16 and it was a pink one.

After finishing his National Service in 1996, he worked at various jobs. He last worked full-time as a security guard for a firm near Jurong Island.

Madam Karuppayee, 58, said that in 1997, she received a registered letter at the three-room HDB flat she and Mr Vadiveloo share near Balestier Road.

She said: 'I signed for the letter but did not know what it was for. A relative later told me that it was from the Immigration Department and was for Vadiveloo.

'My son was working near Jurong Island and did not come home every day. When he came home, I forgot to tell him about the letter as I was not well at the time.'

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

Anonymous said...

This is already the 2nd case highlighted in the media. The first case is below. I wonder how many more cases there are!!!


Mon, Jan 05, 2009
The New Paper
Man loses S'pore citizenship
By Arul John


HIS mother blames herself for being forgetful. And the result of her forgetfulness is that her son now has no country to call his own.

Mr Vadiveloo Rajamuthi was born in Malaysia, but has lived in Singapore since he was 3.

He claims he did not know he had to take an oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty after turning 21 if he wanted to remain a Singapore citizen.

His mother, Madam Karuppayee Arumugam, got a written reminder, but forgot to tell him about it.

That lapse caused Mr Vadiveloo to lose his Singapore citizenship in 2003 and he is now stateless.

Mr Vadiveloo, who does odd jobs, now lives here with a Special Pass from the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), which is renewed annually.

Two appeals to ICA for citizenship or permanent residence were unsuccessful, and his family now hopes an appeal to the Ministry of Home Affairs will help.

Mr Vadiveloo was born in Johor Baru on 24 Jan 1976, and was registered as a Singapore citizen in 1980.

His father, a Singaporean, was working in Johor at the time of his birth. Mr Vadiveloo's elder brother, MrMurugan, 34, was born in Singapore and is a Singapore citizen.

In 1979, the family moved back to Singapore.

Mr Vadiveloo said he got a Singapore IC when he turned 16 and it was a pink one.

After finishing his National Service in 1996, he worked at various jobs. He last worked full-time as a security guard for a firm near Jurong Island.

Madam Karuppayee, 58, said that in 1997, she received a registered letter at the three-room HDB flat she and Mr Vadiveloo share near Balestier Road.

She said: 'I signed for the letter but did not know what it was for. A relative later told me that it was from the Immigration Department and was for Vadiveloo.

'My son was working near Jurong Island and did not come home every day. When he came home, I forgot to tell him about the letter as I was not well at the time.'

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

Anonymous said...

This is already the 2nd case highlighted in the media. The first case is below. I wonder how many more cases there are!!!


Mon, Jan 05, 2009
The New Paper
Man loses S'pore citizenship
By Arul John


HIS mother blames herself for being forgetful. And the result of her forgetfulness is that her son now has no country to call his own.

Mr Vadiveloo Rajamuthi was born in Malaysia, but has lived in Singapore since he was 3.

He claims he did not know he had to take an oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty after turning 21 if he wanted to remain a Singapore citizen.

His mother, Madam Karuppayee Arumugam, got a written reminder, but forgot to tell him about it.

That lapse caused Mr Vadiveloo to lose his Singapore citizenship in 2003 and he is now stateless.

Mr Vadiveloo, who does odd jobs, now lives here with a Special Pass from the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), which is renewed annually.

Two appeals to ICA for citizenship or permanent residence were unsuccessful, and his family now hopes an appeal to the Ministry of Home Affairs will help.

Mr Vadiveloo was born in Johor Baru on 24 Jan 1976, and was registered as a Singapore citizen in 1980.

His father, a Singaporean, was working in Johor at the time of his birth. Mr Vadiveloo's elder brother, MrMurugan, 34, was born in Singapore and is a Singapore citizen.

In 1979, the family moved back to Singapore.

Mr Vadiveloo said he got a Singapore IC when he turned 16 and it was a pink one.

After finishing his National Service in 1996, he worked at various jobs. He last worked full-time as a security guard for a firm near Jurong Island.

Madam Karuppayee, 58, said that in 1997, she received a registered letter at the three-room HDB flat she and Mr Vadiveloo share near Balestier Road.

She said: 'I signed for the letter but did not know what it was for. A relative later told me that it was from the Immigration Department and was for Vadiveloo.

'My son was working near Jurong Island and did not come home every day. When he came home, I forgot to tell him about the letter as I was not well at the time.'

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

Anonymous said...

This is already the 2nd case highlighted in the media. The first case is below. I wonder how many more cases there are!!!


Mon, Jan 05, 2009
The New Paper
Man loses S'pore citizenship
By Arul John


HIS mother blames herself for being forgetful. And the result of her forgetfulness is that her son now has no country to call his own.

Mr Vadiveloo Rajamuthi was born in Malaysia, but has lived in Singapore since he was 3.

He claims he did not know he had to take an oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty after turning 21 if he wanted to remain a Singapore citizen.

His mother, Madam Karuppayee Arumugam, got a written reminder, but forgot to tell him about it.

That lapse caused Mr Vadiveloo to lose his Singapore citizenship in 2003 and he is now stateless.

Mr Vadiveloo, who does odd jobs, now lives here with a Special Pass from the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), which is renewed annually.

Two appeals to ICA for citizenship or permanent residence were unsuccessful, and his family now hopes an appeal to the Ministry of Home Affairs will help.

Mr Vadiveloo was born in Johor Baru on 24 Jan 1976, and was registered as a Singapore citizen in 1980.

His father, a Singaporean, was working in Johor at the time of his birth. Mr Vadiveloo's elder brother, MrMurugan, 34, was born in Singapore and is a Singapore citizen.

In 1979, the family moved back to Singapore.

Mr Vadiveloo said he got a Singapore IC when he turned 16 and it was a pink one.

After finishing his National Service in 1996, he worked at various jobs. He last worked full-time as a security guard for a firm near Jurong Island.

Madam Karuppayee, 58, said that in 1997, she received a registered letter at the three-room HDB flat she and Mr Vadiveloo share near Balestier Road.

She said: 'I signed for the letter but did not know what it was for. A relative later told me that it was from the Immigration Department and was for Vadiveloo.

'My son was working near Jurong Island and did not come home every day. When he came home, I forgot to tell him about the letter as I was not well at the time.'

Anonymous said...

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

No longer citizen

Madam Karuppayee claims that she told the officer that she did not give the letter to him then and he was now in jail.

After Mr Vadiveloo was released from jail, he was shocked to be given a special pass instead of his pink NRIC.

He said: 'The ICA officers said I was no longer a Singapore citizen because I did not take the oath. When employers see my pass, they don't want to hire me because they do not know my citizenship.

'I cannot easily travel because of the restrictions of the pass.'

As he cannot hold down a regular job, Mr Vadiveloo and his family have relied on their savings as well as financial help from friends and colleagues.

Madam Karuppayee approached Jalan Besar MP Heng Chee How twice to appeal to ICA to reinstate her son's Singapore citizenship but both appeals were unsuccessful.

Mr Vadiveloo said: 'Five years have passed since my jail term and I have since had a clean record. I have served my NS and done the punishment for my crime.

'Why can't ICA return my Singapore citizenship to me?'

Madam Karuppayee said: 'If I had given my son the letter earlier, he would have known what to do and all these problems would not have happened.'

She has also approached lawyer A P Thirumurthy for help.

The lawyer has sent an appeal letter to the Home Affairs Ministry to re-consider Mr Vadiveloo's case.

The Ministry and ICA are looking into the case.

Two reminders sent: ICA

ON 12 Mar 2004, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs Ho Peng Kee told Parliament that Singapore had 2,800 stateless people at that time - 95 per cent of whom had been given Singapore permanent residency.

The Straits Times reported that between 1999 and 2004, 730 stateless persons became Singapore citizens.

An ICA spokesman said they do not comment on individual cases.

But according to ICA, when a minor is granted Singapore citizenship by registration, he and his parents are informed of the need for the minor to take the oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty between the ages of 21 and 22.

An ICA spokesman said this information is also printed on the minor's Singapore citizenship certificate.

She said ICA would also send two reminder letters to the person on the need to take the oath - first when he or she turns 21 and again six months later.

For minors who are overseas during this time, the spokesman said ICA would direct the reminder letters to their overseas addresses if ICA has that information, and they could take the oath at the overseas Singapore missions.

She said the minors would cease to be Singapore citizens if they did not take the oath before their 22nd birthday.

....

Lawyer M P Rai said stateless people cannot enjoy perks like subsidised public housing and government grants.

He added that they will have difficulty applying to local schools, and have to apply for special travel documents on a case-by-case basis.

Anonymous said...

ICA practice is to send a second reminder if no action is taken after the first letter (see report at right), but mother and son claim they did not receive any other letters from ICA.

Information about the need to take the oath is also written on Mr Vadiveloo's citizenship certificate, but he said he never read it thoroughly.

Between 23 Jun 1998 and 26 Apr 2003, Mr Vadiveloo was in jail for robbery. During that time, Madam Karuppayee said, ICA called her and told her that Mr Vadiveloo had not taken his oath, despite it having sent a letter to her home informing him of the need to do so.

No longer citizen

Madam Karuppayee claims that she told the officer that she did not give the letter to him then and he was now in jail.

After Mr Vadiveloo was released from jail, he was shocked to be given a special pass instead of his pink NRIC.

He said: 'The ICA officers said I was no longer a Singapore citizen because I did not take the oath. When employers see my pass, they don't want to hire me because they do not know my citizenship.

'I cannot easily travel because of the restrictions of the pass.'

As he cannot hold down a regular job, Mr Vadiveloo and his family have relied on their savings as well as financial help from friends and colleagues.

Madam Karuppayee approached Jalan Besar MP Heng Chee How twice to appeal to ICA to reinstate her son's Singapore citizenship but both appeals were unsuccessful.

Mr Vadiveloo said: 'Five years have passed since my jail term and I have since had a clean record. I have served my NS and done the punishment for my crime.

'Why can't ICA return my Singapore citizenship to me?'

Madam Karuppayee said: 'If I had given my son the letter earlier, he would have known what to do and all these problems would not have happened.'

She has also approached lawyer A P Thirumurthy for help.

The lawyer has sent an appeal letter to the Home Affairs Ministry to re-consider Mr Vadiveloo's case.

The Ministry and ICA are looking into the case.

Anonymous said...

Two reminders sent: ICA

ON 12 Mar 2004, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs Ho Peng Kee told Parliament that Singapore had 2,800 stateless people at that time - 95 per cent of whom had been given Singapore permanent residency.

The Straits Times reported that between 1999 and 2004, 730 stateless persons became Singapore citizens.

An ICA spokesman said they do not comment on individual cases.

But according to ICA, when a minor is granted Singapore citizenship by registration, he and his parents are informed of the need for the minor to take the oath of renunciation, allegiance and loyalty between the ages of 21 and 22.

An ICA spokesman said this information is also printed on the minor's Singapore citizenship certificate.

She said ICA would also send two reminder letters to the person on the need to take the oath - first when he or she turns 21 and again six months later.

For minors who are overseas during this time, the spokesman said ICA would direct the reminder letters to their overseas addresses if ICA has that information, and they could take the oath at the overseas Singapore missions.

She said the minors would cease to be Singapore citizens if they did not take the oath before their 22nd birthday.

....

Lawyer M P Rai said stateless people cannot enjoy perks like subsidised public housing and government grants.

He added that they will have difficulty applying to local schools, and have to apply for special travel documents on a case-by-case basis.

Anonymous said...

These are the forgotten people which exist every where,the bottom percentage.

PAP would be the last party in this world to be emphatic towards these people,but god works in a very mystery way,that is what I can think of for these as someone rightly called,naive/stupid people.

But to these people,I say"Normal distribution curve,and u should know.

But then I would not blame if they know not!But also I could not balme PAP for saying:it is yr own fault!

Anonymous said...

damn blogspot have error. Told me comments too long. So I resent. But now they post every of my comment twice/thrice!!! apologies :(

Anonymous said...

Common sense should prevail.

President Nathan just step in and get it sorted.

Beside if he doesn't do this, what does he do every day?

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Anonymous said...

3+6+9 = 18
6+6+6 = 18?

Anonymous said...

in other truly first-world countries, this guy would probably be able to sue the government successfully.

here under PAP, they will never admit their mistake and will claim magnanimity when they correct THEIR mistake.

as for MPs, enough said. they do nothing but put on show.

Jimmy said...

would he have been given this treatment if he was a P.Hd?

Would he have been given this treatment if he was a multi millionaire?

TheYoungSingaporean said...

Oh... man.. That's upsetting.. :(

Anonymous said...

As usual. WKS Ministries screw up like nobody business.
This is the problem when he is placed by someone into his position. Has he been contested? Or someone just trying to build his own empire?
We are ALL ungrateful right? Actually can I ask LKY what he worked as during WW2.

Anonymous said...

We have 1st class infrastructures, third class EQ when it comes to rules and regulations. Ryuju is defintely entitled to feel the way he feels, betrayed. Apparently if he can swim or play table tennis better than Sillyporeans, bet someone will be begging him to retake his oath at his 'own time own target'.

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