Sunday, December 25, 2011

Sim Ann : Tackling Inequality.... Charting our own path.



Sim Ann, a former top civil servant who joined the PAP in the 2011 GE, wrote an article entitled "Tackling Inequality : Charting our own path". The article was published in the Straits Times on 22 Dec 2011 and appears on her Facebook[Link], I suggest you read her article in full before reading the rest of the posting to thoroughly appreciate what she has to say on the issue...also read all the comments on her Facebook page on this article. It is an intelligently written article but I will tell you where she is wrong and she is wrong where it matters the most.

"For example, one lady who approaches us for help regularly has an unemployed husband. He has been staying at home for years, and refuses to get a job, even though he is able-bodied and quite capable of working. On occasion, our volunteers have been dismayed to find people they have helped continuing to spend money on habits they can ill afford, like smoking."

In her article she cites the case of family asking for help but found to have an able bodied person in household. Her choice of example echoes the perpetual and paralysing fear (or excuse?) of abuse in PAP govt that is used to explain why it cannot do more for the poor.  For every such case, there are also cases of people who fall through the cracks in the system that deserve help but find it hard to get any. Any good system in place will have to tend to the cracks and detect abuse. There are many cases of people falling through the cracks cited by Leong Sze Hian in his book and writings[Focus on help for families that need it] as well as this blog.  Today, the reality is it is probably harder to get help than abuse the system. There are numerous cases in which  the PAP's own MPs feel should get help but cannot get past the bureaucracy that sometimes look more like a firewall against abuse.

She also cite cases of those who can help themselves financially by giving up on expensive habits smoking - hmm..... but it is only expensive in Singapore because the govt tax it so much and prevents smokers from getting their fix from Malaysia. Smoking is bad for health and people should stop smoking regardless of their financial state.

There is another part of the article where she links the current European crisis to welfarism.  I'm not a proponent of the welfare state but this view is incorrect[Krugman : Legends of the Fail]. It is ideologically attractive to simply point to the Europe and say that is the end result of having too much welfare but it is not true. Ireland and Spain failed financially because they rescued the banks when the housing bubble in collapse so the PAP govt should at least be equally worried about high housing prices. In the US, they had more welfare in the 70s and 80s but lower deficit and national debt because they also had high income taxes to pay for it. It is common sense that if a govt takes in less that what it spends it will have a deficit funded by debt. The US debt is caused as much by defense spending as it is by welfare entitlement but it is ideological to miss big elephant in Singapore called defense spending. Sim Ann talks about potential abuse of tax payers money by smokers and those who don't work but the sum total of social our safety nets is dwarfed by our spending on defense. We should also be asking how much defense spending is necessary but the PAP  won't go there for ideological reasons. With globalisation and dependency on world trade the security threat has changed to all out war to low intensity conflicts, and the high income gap that weakens our social cohesion severely undermines our social defense changing the equation that justifies the tradeoff for high defense spending vs low social spending ...don't forget behind every weapon and platform is a service man with a stake in the socioeconomic system and severe inequality undermines what he has at stake.


The heart of the article and PAP's thinking can be found in this paragraph:

"That way we can evolve our own social model, one that emphasises enterprise and drive, rather than the redistribution of a shrinking pie; one that encourages self-reliance instead of welfare; and one that helps build a fair, just and inclusive society.

Our government spending will inevitably rise over the next decade, as our social needs grow and our programmes expand to meet them. But the government can only spend within its means.
We have kept taxes low in Singapore, especially direct taxes on income. This keeps us competitive and encourages our people to excel in their work, and to make the most of their abilities. For this reason, we must be cautious in taking on new state-funded welfare commitments."

Ideally, if the income gap is small, we can keep taxes low and everyone has the ability to be self-reliant.  That is what most ordinary Singaporeans including myself would prefer. However, today we have the largest income gap among developed countries. We do not have a small problem we have a very big problem....and we have to recognise this. She blames globalisation for the inequality but if that is true, why does our income gap have to be larger than all of the developed countries we compete against?  We will come to that later.

She says that we should emphasized enterprise rather than "try to redistribute a shrinking pie". But inequality itself is a hindrance to expanding this pie in a sustainable manner. We have to fix the income gap problem first in order to have sustainable growth (see video in previous posting). Redistributing wealth and expanding pie goes hand in hand. Sim Ann got her economics wrong. The US economy had the best growth when income gap was much smaller, the middle income families thrived and taxes were higher in the 50s and 60s. The notion of lowering tax to get economic growth and foster enterprise has a diminishing return when the income gap grows to a point when a large segment in society start to struggle financially - worried about healthcare, housing - you are going to have less drive and enterprise. If you want drive and enterprise, we can energise our SMEs by cutting rents, utilities cost, govt fees, and giving smaller company tax breaks while taxing our monopolies especially GLCs to level the playing field.

Simply growing a economic pie while keeping an income gap as large as what it is today without a fairer more equal distribution of wealth just make no sense. We have been seeing GDP growth but an increasing segment of the populace see their life getting worse. You cannot get people to buy-in to such a system over the long run - it is politically unsustainable and support will erode over time. Many people suggesting tax reform are not doing it because they insist on punishing the wealthy or enterprising individuals in our society. It is because we have waited for other solutions to narrow the income gap for far too long and nothing else the PAP has done has brought down our GINI index and the situation gets worse year after year. Economist Shiller puts it very well when he said that making tazes fairer does not  "destroy capitalism" or the important aspects of capitalism (enterprise and drive) but it prevents the wheels from falling off and helps capitalism to survive - Warren Buffett, shares this view.

The PAP has to narrow the income gap even if it means reforming progressive taxes to produce a fairer outcome for our society. Today as the share of corporate profits as a % of GDP rises every year we finding an increasing number of Singaporeans who work full time and cannot make ends meet.  In the 2011 GE and PE, the people sent a strong signal and perhaps a "final warning" of sorts to the PAP to get this fixed by the next elections. Today, the PAP is only stretching its safety net to catch an increasing number that have fellen to pverty levels .... It is equivalent to finding homeless people to put into shelters to make the most visible negative outcome of rising cost of housing disappear. The real problem runs deeper and wider - the Occupy movement in US calls it "the 99%" because it is hitting a growing segment of the populace. We have a wider income gap than in US where these Occupy protests have taken place and the income gap has become the key 2012 US Presidential election issue(Economic Inequality an Issue for 2012 Campaign).

The PAP insistence on maintaining the lowest corporate tax and lowest marginal tax rate for the rich among developed countries while at the same time having an income gap that is the highest among developed economies competing against us shows a huge imbalance in policy making. The PAP govt as recently as 2007 was cutting corporate taxes and raising GST which increases tax on the poor as the income gap grew to new highs.  The PAP also pursued policies such as importing 3rd world foreign labor to keep wages low and grow the economy. Productivity was neglected and fell behind other countries. If the PAP wanted to maintain low taxes, it should have structured our economy to avoid this 3rd world wage structure.

Sim Ann's article shows an underestimation of the problem and if it remains unsolved when the PAP goes for the next GE, telling voters that the pie has grown and taxes has remained low to keep people enterprising is not going to be enough when most people find their lives getting worse as wealth concentrates in a small segment of society.  Sim Ann's article contains no solution to narrow the income gap but merely explains why the govt is constrained by the need to avoid raising taxes  for the rich and corporations which is already at the lowest in our nation's history. While the PAP "expands the safety nets" to catch the poorest who cannot make ends meet, the effects of the income gap is spreading to the middle class which is now seeing financial strain. The stresses are building up and the problem is deepening as the govt tackles only the worst cases while many more become worse off. Sim Ann's formulation of "our own path" is a path to a dead end in which the problem is not solved and the status quo is retained.

144 comments:

Anonymous said...

After GE 2011, I've concluded that they won't change, and I will seek to retire outside of SG.

Wishing you and your family Merry Christmas and a Happy New year !

Anonymous said...

basically, laziness is a character flaw of human nature and all of us know that it is impossible to change a person's character; e.g. lucky tan's socialist outlook towards life.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter whether in whoever's opinion, Sim Ann or PAP is right or wrong lah.

At the end of the day, what really matters for any politician or party is whether majority voters (60%)will vote for you in a free and fair election.

And also there are signs of prosperity and peace on the streets.

Once these are achieved, it means that you have done something right, and very right.

Regardless of what bloggers or critics say to the contrary.

Anonymous said...

Lucky Tan can be very right, but if he contest an election as non PAP candidate and lost to PAP, is he still right?

Anonymous said...

Don't be right but useless.

Lye Khuen Way said...

Lucky, Ms Sim was & is part of the 'group think', so we just have to continue to educate the 60.1% & hopefully let some powerful elite see the light soon.

Anonymous said...

Time will be the best judge.
In a decade time, we should see PAP'S votes dwindle to 50%. By then, I would like to see all the president scholars write about how PAP government was doing all the right things for the past 10 years.

Anonymous said...

Group think is precisely the reason why Sim Ann is selected by PAP. She is the product of our education system. Someone who is able to regurgitate PAP ideas. Someone who cannot do independent thinking. A handicap of the mind.

Anonymous said...

The answer does not lie with smart ass, and no prizes for identifying this lot.

So blame it on centuries of social conditioning. Stick and carrot make donkeys out of people. To level the playing field, you need to...dot dot dot.

Anonymous said...

Waste time talking to ... Money face and self importance people.

I say let them rot. Those who are lucky to separate themselves from these khay khiang people, well good for you lol

cow138 said...

Agreed with your assessment. Definitely a balance has to be reached.

In this climate there is a difficulty to do the right thing in the face of group think.

The present group is probably too entrenched to think out of the box even in the face of hard truths.

Anonymous said...

I think what causes sleepless nights to the ruling regime is seeing more and more average working people/class needing social assistance.

For their "utopia society" to work, you need to be a saint.

No wonder the churches here can commit day light robbery.

Anonymous said...

The anti-welfare, ultra capitalist ideology runs deep in the pap. Rest assured that this aspect of the pap will NEVER change. The blinkers on their eyes and minds are so thick on this issue. Hence it is not surprising that u can easily tear thru their "analysis". The only way to change things in Singapore is to Vote Oppositions.

Anonymous said...

As 'Zero' said in TRE, the 1st step is depopulation.

First, identifying which jobs really need foreigners and sending the rest back.

Second, revoking the privileges of PR and reassessing the new citizens.

The govt and private businesses have grown addicted to property/rental riches and cheap labour respectively. It is time to go ' Back To Three Million' or 'BTTM'.

Anonymous said...

Back side got. End up in smelly hole.

Lucky Tan said...

anon 8:52,

Even the great american capitalist Buffett has a socialistic outlook thses days....

Anonymous said...

saints are long suffering,sacrificial,magnanimous,discipline,kind and most importantly...submissive to authority.

with such attributes, you have no one to blame but yourself.

you see them putting a fork up their assholes? nope. best form of social control.

Anonymous said...

they don't cheat,they don't lie and are responsible people.

even if they to have to eat only rice to survive, they will gladly break the grains and share with each other than to murmur against god.

we need a society comprising mostly saints

Anonymous said...

"I think what causes sleepless nights to the ruling regime is seeing more and more average working people/class needing social assistance."
Anon 25/12/11 10:56

So long as 60% do not need social assistance and vote PAP, it is still OK.

Or some of those who need social assistance still vote PAP.

If I were PAP, I won't be sleepless over this.

I will only be sleepless if foreigners and their money don't want to come here anymore.

Anonymous said...

saints come in many shapes and sizes. they have fat saints and thin saints. the fat ones believe god owns the earth,and everything in it, so being ultra capitalist is a holy calling too. these fat saints have no problem living in earthly mansions and driving lamparghini.

they believe the wealth if the wicked will be transferred into their bank account.

hallelujah. makes me wanna go to church and offer up my hdb

Anonymous said...

and saints don't commit illicit sex. a society of saints will save us from an epidemic of VDs and aids.

they are also fruitful and will multiply the earth. repopulating your holy city is not a problem anymore

Anonymous said...

/Our government spending will inevitably rise over the next decade, as our social needs grow and our programmes expand to meet them. But the government can only spend within its means.
We have kept taxes low in Singapore, especially direct taxes on income. This keeps us competitive and encourages our people to excel in their work, and to make the most of their abilities. For this reason, we must be cautious in taking on new state-funded welfare commitments./

This is some sterile statment or script to be parrotted by any officer who is looking for some quick good answer.

I think a lot of our officers know nuts about economics (at least on the intricicies on our social-economic interplay of our country) and are so easily convinced by any official line being told to them.

Veritas said...

Kuan-Yew-nomics is based to undermining socialist paradise of developed country by giving a channel for MNC to run wage arbitration.

In short, SG is a parasitic state, worse than North Korea. Kuan Yew remain a pop star unlike Kim is because he is on the same side with those supra-national capitalist.

Else Kuan Yew has give more injury to the world than Fat Kim II.

We can forget about socialism without undoing all fundamental institution of Singapore.

Anonymous said...

/Anonymous said...
Lucky Tan can be very right, but if he contest an election as non PAP candidate and lost to PAP, is he still right?/

same goes. say if you run a race this year where your lane is more uneven & you fininshed 2nd place. Do you think you really lost out to the 1st. Deep inside, you know the answer.

now back to the rest of the story, would you want your 2nd place be stamped in perpetuity or you would like to try again the next year but ensure that the lane is more even this time round. And if it is not, you do it again & again knowing that you could actually win the race as the previous winner has along got there through some unfair advantage.

Anonymous said...

If u r not a saint, u deserve to be burnt in the purgatory along with the parasitic underclass

Veritas said...

When I was growing up during the 80s when Singapore was not that rich, I remember all Singaporean secondary school students are enjoying free dental care.

The socialism of dental care do no bankrupt Singapore. Neither did it cost any much more monies, than salaries of fat cat parasitic principals and HOD.

As we "progress" and Singapore become richer, the secondary school no longer have free dental care. They have to pay more than $100. The result is PAP is depriving a large segment of poor high school kids access to dental care.

In fact, healthcare is an area whereby public institution are far more efficient than private.

Socialize healthcare do not cost much. They certainly will not bankrupt us.

I raise this example to show that anti-socialism are bullshit.

The government of SG is a good example whereby institutions after institutions have been captive of special economics interest.

These cartel destroy output capacity, creating scarcity, then extort exorbitant rent from the people.

Anonymous said...

If I were PAP, I won't be sleepless over this. I will only be sleepless if foreigners and their money don't want to come here anymore.25/12/11 12:34

They will be hounded day and night by ingrates,the oppositions and the opportunistic

They say that if you rock the boat long enough,one day, people may come to believe the boat is sinking and jump ship

Eventually, you will sink

Anonymous said...

If anyone really thought the PAP was going to change, they must either be very young(i.e. inexperienced) or very stupid. The failures of the pap policies are there for everyone to see. If you have been in Singapore long enough, you would also know how little the PAP values and appreciates genuine feedback. If you are happy with the status quo, so be it. But if you think that very fundamental changes are necessary, there is only one realistic way- vote wisely in 2016.

Anonymous said...

Another typical PAP lackey. Been a top civil servant making decision for her party self-interest which in turn pays her extraordinary salary.

See how easy to pin her down. She is just another TinCan making.

"That way we can evolve our own social model, one that emphasises enterprise and drive, rather than the redistribution of a shrinking pie; one that encourages self-reliance instead of welfare; and one that helps build a fair, just and inclusive society."


"redistribution of a shrinking pie"

Hello, isn't her pay tie to GPD ? If it is indeed shrinking pie, how did she get her millions ? She get a huge pie while others get no pie ?


"one that encourages self-reliance"

Did she even self-reliance in the election , or did she hide under the underwear of our Lord Voldermount ?

Fancy a wolf teaching the sheep on how to be nice to a wolf ?

Who is she to kid us with her nonsense ?

Anonymous said...

You have too many religious idiots around. How not to sink?

Anonymous said...

Government spending on salaries of ministers, civil servants and GLC senior management is at least $2 billion per annum! Why doesn't she mention any of this cost to taxpayers. 90% of these people earning million dollar paychecks do not deserve it.

Sim Ann is supporting the fascist system of the PAP. ANd using false assumptions to support her aims. She should be ashamed of herself! She can hoodwink the general populace but more and more Singaporeans know better.

Singapore Man said...

If there is anyone within the PAP worth keeping who would it be?

Or should the whole lot go?

Should the whole of Singapore sink?
Regardless of whoever is the governing party?

Is Singapore a home to anyone?
If it is no one, why are we still here?

Singapore is my home.
I was born here
I did my NS
I got married
I bought a HDB flat
I have 2 male children
I worked here.
I was retrenched

Should I pack up and go?

Where should I go?

Or it doesn't matter as long its away from Singapore?

Is it Singapore that I should say good bye to or to the PAP?

Why should I leave?
Shouldn't the PAP leave?
After all they are the ones who seem to be the ones causing all this.

I surely did not start this at all!

I did my NS remember?
I bought a HDB remember?
I married another Singaporean remember?
I gave 2 sons who will are doing NS remember?
I also got retrenched remember?

Anonymous said...

When our PAP leaders pay themselves that kind of out-of-the-world in salaries, isn't that a kind of obscene welfare for themselves ?

And yet as if that is not enough, they don't even feel ashamed that they have make no attempt to implement a fair minimum wage for the low income earners, what kind of greedy bastards are they ?

The Pariah said...

Gaming the system" is NOT limited to social welfare.

PAP laws and regs foster "gaming the system" (eg, CPF housing withdrawal, HDB 5-year Min Occu Period, Condo En Bloc Sale flipper framework, etc).

The 2009 Resilience Package funded by public $$$ was "gamed" by companies reporting triple-digit % increase in net profit in 2H 2009.

The Pariah said...

The 3 PAPs:

The "Poor Also Pay".

The rest of us continue to
"Pay And Pay".


So that they can get "Pay And Pension" after age 55 under Parliamentary Pensions Act.


Wonder if Ms Sim Ann has heard of Economist Jeffrey Sachs' "Race to the bottom" concept, eh?

Anonymous said...

Experts views?

No wonder we are in this situation.

Anonymous said...

Talking about laziness, PAP is the most lazy of all which include the one sitting in Istana, and yes, they took the best of welfare for themselves. Pension is one of them plus their own obscene salaries. That explains why people like Sim Ann think she can find richness contesting for PAP. Looking at Singpaore salaries, 20% CPF deduction plus other visible taxes be it GST,ERP or town council fee is enough to justify why our people are overly taxed, not those income tax kind of tax.

Anonymous said...

MIWs are good at justifying their actions. Don't forget, Conservatives around the world are also known to be very good at preventing mistakes from being corrected. The future of Singapore needs a dedicated team of people with both intelligence and virtues to lead. The current batch of intelligent elites are 'hopeless'. A MRT train that stopped dead in the tunnel, after 24 years of good track records, could well be an ominous sign.

E. said...

Great article. My comment is not about the quality of your piece but in reference to a point mentioned about smokers.

Smokers are targets of blame for 'abuse of welfare' everywhere, but in Singapore I find it plain hypocrisy because with the taxes on tobacco it seems like smokers actually contribute to the country's coffers!

In addition, smokers obviously have serious health concerns in the long-term, but to penalise them in a potential welfare system, you must also start penalising alcoholics and obese people. Is the government prepared to do that and are the people willing to accept this? Everyone readily jumps at attacking smokers, but few people actually question traditional schools of thought. Did you know that smoking, like many, many other things is LINKED to smoking and in the USA and UK for example, medical professionals are not supposed to say that smoking causes lung cancer. Because guess what - they still can't prove it once or not, believe it or not. Alcohol only affects the person drinking it.... yeah right, as can be seen by drug drivers running people over. Obesity is linked to even more diseases than smoking - should people who are obese also be penalised? After all, they could have kept fit but refused to.

Anonymous said...

Why not attack car drivers?

Cars give out far more pollutants than smokers.

Hang Seng Parasite said...

Inequality must be accepted and managed, we shouldnt be too concern on where we rank because ours is a unique society.

Anonymous said...

Why not attack farters?

Farters give out far more pollutants than smokers.

Anonymous said...

I am not an economist...but isn't the 7 per cent GST a form of 'income tax'(on anything and everything) on EVERYONE, including the poor? For example,GST(to the state) would have had been paid by the flour wholeseller who sells the flour to the supplier who sells the flour to the heartland bakery shopowner who sells the $1 loaf of bread to me. I pay GST(albeit indirectly) although the bakery shop may not be GST registered.So why does the state say that the poor is not affected by GST if he buys from non- GST registered shops?
ALL of us, rich or POOR, pay a TAX of 7%.AND, for the poor, who could least afford it, this payment to the state is indefensible and wrong!There should be NO GST for food items.Period.Don't give excuses like administrative difficulties etc.We are in the 21st century.We are 'world class' remember? OR, are we world class only when the state CHOOSES to define at its pleasure? And cherry-pick when the state wishes to compare things with other countries? example, mrt fares are cheaper than London/ a loaf of bread is cheaper than in New Zealand etc. Please!!!! compare apples with apples.
Thank you.

Lucky Tan said...

anon 17:35,

The GST is known as a regressive tax because it causes more burden than income come tax for the poor if you're looking to raise the same total amount of money.

That is because the poor use up all their money every month to buy stuff which is subject to this tax while the rich only use a fraction of their income.

What the PAP did in the last 2 GST increase was to reduce the marginal income tax rate and corporate tax and recover the amount through GST. Overall the tax burden for the poorer segmant of the populace was increased and corporations got a tax cut.

To see the full explanation google for GST Singapore wiki. The wikipedia page has an excellent explanation of GST and the effects of GST.

Anonymous said...

Smoking is an indication of the stress and seriousness of the problems that have grown so large and more harder to be tackled but are hidden and pretended not to exist. To relieve stress and worry, more Singaporeans smoke.

More Singaporeans smoke because they they have lost their jobs to huge number of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans smoke because they are worried they have will lose their jobs to large number of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans smoke because their wages are depressed by mass import of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans smoke because their low wages cannot support the high cost of living.

More Singaporeans smoke because they cannot afford to buy the high property prices.

Tsunami of cheap foreigners to Singapore has caused the number of Singaporean smokers to rise.

Since PAP opens the floodgate to allow unlimited number of cheap foreigners to Singapore, the presence of big number of cheap foreigners has lead to more Singaporean to resort to smoke to relieve strain and stress.

Thus, actions of PAP is the root cause of the surge of more Singaporean smokers.

Truer said...

Farting is an indication of the stress and seriousness of the problems that have grown so large and more harder to be tackled but are hidden and pretended not to exist. To relieve stress and worry, more Singaporeans fart.

More Singaporeans fart because they they have lost their jobs to huge number of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans fart because they are worried they have will lose their jobs to large number of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans fart because their wages are depressed by mass import of cheap foreigners.

More Singaporeans fart because their low wages cannot support the high cost of living.

More Singaporeans fart because they cannot afford to buy the high property prices.

Tsunami of cheap foreigners to Singapore has caused the number of Singaporean farters to rise.

Since PAP opens the floodgate to allow unlimited number of cheap foreigners to Singapore, the presence of big number of cheap foreigners has lead to more Singaporean to resort to fart to relieve strain and stress.

Thus, actions of PAP is the root cause of the surge of more Singaporean farters.

Anonymous said...

People take up smoking because:

A) It relieves stress
B) It is cheaper than a car
C) It is cheaper than casino
D) It is cheaper than a HDB flat
E) It is cheaper than country club
F) It is cheaper than golf
G) It is cheaper than a holiday
H) It is cheaper than Taxi

Am I also to live a life of a monk?

Anonymous said...

Monks can smoke but they can't have sex.

Anonymous said...

People take up farting because: It is free.

Anonymous said...

"The current batch of intelligent elites are 'hopeless'."
Anon 25/12/11 15:58

Then why 60% voted for these intelligent 'hopeless' elites?

Are these 60% less intelligent and more hopeless?

Anonymous said...

/Anonymous said...
Why not attack car drivers?

Cars give out far more pollutants than smokers./

Well said. Sometimes, it is easier to attack a weak enemy (negative image associated with smokers) than a strong one (wealth, prestige & status associated with car ownership and the transportation provided by bus & trucks, etc).

Singapore has so many roads with many traffic lights and many high rise buildings close to it and yet so compact. Just imagine the amount of exhaust that is being taken in by people living nearby or even in walking along busy road from point to point or waiting at bus stops in the morning or evening rush hours. That is the consequence of development that some people are so proud to trumpet about and like to compare with even dense cities for some degree of comfort that we are not the worst (competiting to the bottom).

Anonymous said...

'The GST is known as a regressive tax because it causes more burden than income come tax for the poor if you're looking to raise the same total amount of money.'
Lucky Tan 25/12/11 17:45

But 60% voted for PAP. Are all the 60% rich?

But if some are poor and burdened by GST, but they don't mind and still voted PAP, then it's OK for PAP what.

Anonymous said...

"So long as 60% do not need social assistance and vote PAP, it is still OK."

That's true. In Sin, it is quite easy to maintain that aggregate. But will they be able to resist external pressures on global inequality.

Being on top of the situation, despite the increasing rift, does not make what we do right, does it?

Anonymous said...

"Just imagine the amount of exhaust that is being taken in by people living nearby or even in walking along busy road from point to point or waiting at bus stops in the morning or evening rush hours."
Anon 25/12/11 18:23

But won't die so fast lah.

If not Singapore will be less crowded already.

Singapore

Anonymous said...

"But if some are poor and burdened by GST, but they don't mind and still voted PAP, then it's OK for PAP what."

Do you really think that they don't mind.

Have you watched the video when Kim died, so many people weeped so badly in front of his photo. I wonder whether all of them would do the same at such hysterical level for their own parents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw&feature=player_detailpage

Anonymous said...

"Are these 60% less intelligent and more hopeless?"
Anon 25/12/11 18:21

Possible. The Greater Fool theory.

You have been fooled into buying something. But to get back your money, you can sell it to a greater fool.

Anonymous said...

/But won't die so fast lah.

If not Singapore will be less crowded already.

Singapore/

You think so meh. Even if they know which I think they know for so, are they going to take rectifying action.

By the way, I hope your family (more so your children) will breath more of it and enjoy a slow dance to heaven.

No bad intention but hope that such careless example will wake up your equally careless anwswer.

Anonymous said...

We can afford to help the poor - makes these millionaires MPs feel good. But we cant afford to stop the injustices of inequality - makes them ridiculously(undeservingly) rich.

This is where ALL the political parties failed.

Anonymous said...

helping the slackers and poor is not too difficult if you make or have unaccountable or unlimited source of wealth.

even shady businessmen, with underworld connections, can be model citizens with their "generosity"

Anonymous said...

The crux is...how do they(you know who you are) account for their wealth? Is it just or unjust?

You may think it is just. But a vast majority will disagree with you.

Anonymous said...

sowing for destruction

Anonymous said...

PAP govt raised GST because it needed to make up the shortfall from the cut in corporate taxes.

This is classic "privatising profits, socialising costs" and "trickle-down economics". Both are intellectual deceit masquerading as right-wing economic doctrines.

Anonymous said...

You cannot change the Party Against People because their fundamental belief is that all Singaporeans who ask for help are crooks until proven innocent.
They don't like Singaporeans.
They don't trust Singaporeans.
They don't respect Singaporeans.

I really don't see how they can even claim to represent us.

But still, they want to be our leaders.
And 60% of Singaporeans still think that these overpaid rich elites 'represent" them.

It's no point listening or talking with the Party Against People anymore.
They won't change. And neither will we.

Let's just settle our differences in GE 2016.
In the meantime, go out there and get more votes for the Opposition from your friends, relatives & family.
The fight for votes in GE 2016 starts today.

Anonymous said...

Vote for politicians who share your values.

"What do you want? 3 meals in a hawker centre, foodcourt or restaurant?"

If you think this represents your value system, vote for the Party Against People.

If you think this goes against your value system, vote against the Party Against People.

Always remember. If you should encounter any financial misfortune, you will have to seek help from the political party in power.
Make sure that political party shares your values.
Otherwise, you are going to get a nasty surprise.

Anonymous said...

People take up farting because: It is free.

25/12/11 18:11


because it smells great too

Anonymous said...

"This is a country where, every single day, 25 people bought either a Mercedes-Benz or a BMW for the first 11 months of the year. In the same period, every four days, someone drove away from the Ferrari showroom with a big smile on his face. (One assumes that, each time, it's a different person.)"
Yesterday news

Anonymous said...

The system LKY crafted for Singapore has robbed Singaporeans especially the top elites the capacity to think deeply. Most of them are shallow asslickers.
Very sad indeed that Singaporeans are led by such people.

Reality Bites said...

Two bomb explosions targeting Christmas morning church services in Nigeria have left at least 25 people dead, officials said, in what appears to be a series of co-ordinated attacks in the heart of the country.

The first attack occurred near a Catholic church in Madala, on the outskirts of the Nigerian capital Abuja, during morning prayers. Rescue workers have recovered at least 25 bodies from the church as officials continue to tally those wounded in various hospitals, said Slaku Luguard, a co-ordinator with Nigeria's national emergency management agency (Nema).

A second explosion was reported 100 miles away outside a church in the city of Jos, the scene of a bombing campaign on Christmas Eve last year. Government spokesman Pam Ayuba said the blast near the Mountain of Fire Church was followed by gunshots and that at least one police officer had been wounded.

No one has claimed responsibility for the attacks but Nigerian security forces have been battling the militant Islamist Boko Haram group, which wants to impose Islamic sharia law across the country, which is split roughly equally between Christians and Muslims.

I aso want $$$$ said...

You cannot be a leader if nobody follows you.

Just do not follow the PAP.

Anyway, other people also want to be the Government. And it is not because they have principles, justice in mind.

They too are motivated to be paid millions of dollars and have lion dance for them.
Do not think they have this very noble cause to help you.. politics is all about taking control and wayang.. the better you wayang, the better the control.

Anonymous said...

If your ideology has no universal application, it is no good.

You may get by,but for how long?

What is not absorbed will be dissolved.

Anonymous said...

Singapore government tax revenue dropped because a PAP government has cancelled the estate duty tax on rich people who died.

This is effective from 15 Feb 2008.

http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page.aspx?id=778

Anonymous said...

"That way we can evolve our own social model, one that emphasises enterprise and drive, rather than the redistribution of a shrinking pie; one that encourages self-reliance instead of welfare; and one that helps build a fair, just and inclusive society."

Can PAP and Sim Ann please tell that to the Europeans and the IMF when they come to ask our PAP government for money and financial contribution to IMF.

Can Vivian Balakrishnan please be a man and say to the Europeans;
"What do you want? 3 meals in a hawker center, a food court or a restaurant?"

Cannot say right?

Can bully Singaporeans but dare not stand up to the Europeans right?

Anonymous said...

It would seem that it is the Singaporean tax-payers that subsidize the Singapore government.

See:
http://mysingaporenews.blogspot.com/
date: 12/23/2011
"The bottomless monetary contribution of Singaporeans"

The amount that each Singaporean is supporting the country is $148k cash ... The amount is derived from the two minimum sums, $112k and $32k in Ordinary Account and Medisave account.


And don't even get me started about National Service.
When we subsidize the government it's called "National Service".

When the government subsidizes us, we are just a bunch of welfare cheats.

Amused said...

If Sim Ann were sincere, she would have cited real statistics to back up her position. Cherry picking specific cases simply demonstrates that she is not on a solid footing. What is the state welfare spending per capita over time? What is the percentage of people seeking welfare assistance in the past 10 years? What is the percentage of GDP spending on welfare (compared to other developed countries)? All publicly available statistics show a grim picture for the poor, e.g. ever increasing GINI, negative/stagnant real income growth in the last decade.

Anonymous said...

No matter if approx same size, you cannot compare another place with Singapore - countries are as individual as people.

However as ppl are fond of comparing Sin with HK including Sin gahmen- in HK there is more personal freedom, better social welfare (thanks to British admin. For sure, NOT China with which Sin shares more characteristics), better bus, taxi, MTR system and gahmen that don't treat ppl like children and idiots.

Airport more efficient given less space and less frequent retrofitting/new terminals, transport fr airport offers more choices incl. ferries to China.

Yet HK ppl say their gahmen pretty useless. So maybe it takes a better gahmen to provide less for Singaporeans?

Anonymous said...

@Anon at 25/12/11 15:58

"The current batch of intelligent elites are 'hopeless'."

You bought into their con that they are intelligent elites. The MIWs claim to monopolise all talents for the PAP and that makes people like you and I and Chen Show Mao and Lucky Tan idiots. Our meritocratic system is the one that is hopeless if the privileged are so-called meritocrats related to each other, takes most of the well paying jobs while the rest of us are fed Kool Aid.

Saycheese

Anonymous said...

Hi Lucky,

On the widening income gap, could you provide the changes in income gap during the past 10 years?
e.g. what are the income gap in 2001 and 2011? What are our leaders' pay and the median pay in 2001 and 2011?

Anonymous said...

If u r hoping change to come from within the pap, u can dream on. LKY has deeply entrenched some of his harsh and evil policies in the pap. Non in the top echelon dare to challenge this doctrines. Those who dared were kicked out or jailed.

Anonymous said...

"If you want drive and enterprise, we can energise our SMEs by cutting rents, utilities cost, govt fees, and giving smaller company tax breaks while taxing our monopolies especially GLCs to level the playing field."

Let us email Sim Ann and see if she can do something about what you said in quotes (alot of sarcasm here!)

While these are ways to energise private enterprise, I believe the ruling party is afraid to have a boom private enterprise as this will lead to an alternate power base. Hence, although there has been quasi-privatisation, the ruling party retains significant control of the economy through the GLCs. That is also why they prefer working with foreign partners as they are easily fixable.

Anonymous said...

Win the election with 93% seats.

If this can be achieved, critics can say what they want but who cares?

Anonymous said...

there will soon come a time, if it is not already here that those applying for financial assistance will be asked to prove that they own no more than the minimum of three pairs of underwear; and this has to be the really cheap stuff.

perhaps soon too, those applying may be criticised for eating chocolate or even the cheapest local cake; that they buy white bread, which is cheaper than wholegrain bread, etc etc.

so many barriers to qualify for help just to deal with the odd transgressor, as we expect perfection in our help schemes tho not in our politicians. so much so, we prevent the pple who do need help from receiving it on trivial grounds.

whoever thinks that "intelligent elites" are in charge in this country is downright daft. stupid even. totally brainwashed for sure. and unquestioning too.

sim ann has more holes in her posted arguments on social help than a collander. how can such a person be considered intelligent?

Anonymous said...

Another Party Against People stroke of genius.

Getting a millionaire to optimize costs in our social welfare programs.

Anonymous said...

Wah Sim Ann so good ah.
European crisis expert.

Why not you sell your expertise to the European Union instead?

Why stay in Singapore and blood suck tax-payers money and bully poor Singaporeans?

Go to Europe and tell the Europeans;
"What you want? 3 meals in a hawker center, food court or restaurant?"
Teach the Europeans the PAP way.

Anonymous said...

"Wah Sim Ann so good ah."
Anon 26/12/11 15:11

Good enough to defeat Tan Jee Say in a free and fair election.

Good enough to make PAP win 93% seats in Parliament.

Good enough in Singapore good already.

You good or not?

Nemo Alaska said...

@Lucky Tan
Sim Ann's article does not say that current problems in Europe are the end result of having too much welfare (undoubtedly there are other causes), but the heavy taxing and spending that supports comprehensive welfare systems do pose burdens to European economies.

You had argued that that our income gap is too large, and we need to shrink it in order to produce sustainable growth. This is speculative at best. Faster rates of growth may have been experienced in the US when incomes were more equal (incidentally, the same has happened in the earlier years of Singapore's economic development) but it does not mean the growth resulted from the income distribution. Also, the track record of all communist/socialist command economies that made extraordinary efforts to eliminate the income gap to zero shows very clearly that this kills growth. But, fundamentally, the government recognises that inequality is an issue and needs to be addressed. It is simply not the case that our government has no interest in addressing inequality.

I like inflation most... said...

The higher the inflation rates, its better.

People will spend less not because they have learnt to save but many things will be too expensive.

When people spend less, there will be less shopping. This means also Orchard Road will be less crowded and the MRT will be emptier too.

There will be less cars on the roads.

After a year ot two, prices will come down because, retailers and manufacturers have to reprice their products. This inlcudes property.

We should celebrate that the inflation rates have risen, we should do all possible to keep it up!.. enocurage the wealthy to buy even more cars, bags, and more prawns and steaks!

Anonymous said...

@ ANON 16:18

Party Against People is quite lousy nowadays. Too Few Good Men.

It's just that Party Against People is good at gerrymandering the electoral process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

Anonymous said...

Joke:

Wah Sim Ann so good.

Going to be senior adviser to European Central Bank very soon.

Going to help revive the European economies.

Then the European banks will also be saved.
And then Temasek's investments in European banks will also be saved.
And then Ho Jinx career will also be saved.

And then Sim Ann will return to Singapore as Prime Minister.
And then Singapore will also be saved.

And the Singapore poor will get $%^&*!!

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Sim Ann solve some real problems .... like SMRT security and breakdowns.

Anonymous said...

Expenses on ministers' pay and that of the top honchos in government and the self-approved pension schemes and also on defense are extraordinary. Because of one man's dominant powerplay and uncompromising control for far too long, the atmosphere and political culture evolved into one of fear and quiet obeisance. The elites mostly have been playing safe. With the dollar carrot, it becomes difficult to identify the true peoples' politicians in this group. Defense expenses swallow up a big chunk. Is it really necessary? Is it for some expedient complex individual's self-preservation that got us caught, bound and stuck in defense pacts. Nobody knows! If expenses on the pay schemes and defense could be moderated, we should have a healthy surplus for a more meaningful and better health,welfare and other benefits our people.

Anonymous said...

They have a 60% mandate with 93% seats to form the govt and decide on amount of defence expenses.

Or whatever expenses they, not you, think is right.

You want to decide on expenses? Be a leader of a political party that will win 93% majority seats in elections!

Anonymous said...

Hey Sim Ann.
Since you are talking so much about dishonest poor people.

How about talking about dishonest, well-paid politicians.
You know.
The ones being investigated and charged for corruption.

Why only pick on poor defenseless people?
Are they your only targets?

Anonymous said...

*Clap clap clap*

Lucky Tan, I applaud you.

Well thought out points to counter some rather spurious reasoning by our new MP. I wish the Straits Times would publish you comments to the general public so that Singaporeans can have a better understanding and decide for themselves.

Anonymous said...

"For every such case, there are also cases of people who fall through the cracks in the system that deserve help but find it hard to get any. Any good system in place will have to tend to the cracks and detect abuse."
Lucky Tan

Any good system for the PAP govt is to ensure that majority voters (60%) will still vote for PAP.

And the system has been good for 46 years. Of course it will still be good for the next 5 years.

Anonymous said...

Sim Ann's focus on dishonest poor people is exactly what Singapore needs.

Once Singapore fixes these poor people, the following problems will be alleviated;

1. SMRT train breakdowns and poor security
2. flash floods (I mean ponds) all over Singapore

3. racist politicians
4. lousy investment decisions

Sim Ann definitely knows how to prioritize Singapore's problems.
She sees the big picture.

Definitely good value for our tax-payers money.

ajohor said...

Lucky

All you have pointed out is that the Govt of the day is interested and proactive in resolving the issue thru workfare and others as well as increased safety nets and possibly seeing if a better approach both compassionate as well as not causing a lack of drive.

Further, for GST regressive effect, that was why the the taxable income band was increased (which you conveniently left out) as well as the yearly GST rebates thru Singapore saves.

The EU and USA and even in Nordic countries where the public are questioning both the bloated public service sector which self serves to distribute income.
The cracks remains (having been thru Europe) which personally can see more homeless and more scavengers despite the vaunting of such social security systems.

Frankly, the Utopia you proudly state would occur does not take into account human nature. Not all persons have drive.

To try to reduce the crack and capture more such people would agree, but to disagree just because they intend to try a new path, well , are you not trying to stifle innovation and creativity.

Anonymous said...

"For every such case, there are also cases of people who fall through the cracks in the system that deserve help but find it hard to get any."
Lucky Tan

Maybe the majority are such cases, like the case Sim Ann cited?

And those who deserve help got help already, so no problem and hence no cases to cite.

PAP won 60% not for doing nothing for the poor, you know?

Anonymous said...

She has benefited much as part of the inner circle of the PAP regime so naturally will use her position to make decisions for her party self-interest which in turn pays her extraordinary salary.

Anonymous said...

Extraordinary salary is OK as long as she won the election and PAP won 93% seats.

For instance, Tan Jee Say said he is OK with only $500,000 annual Presidential salary but he only got 25% of the votes in the Presidential Election!

So you see, minister or presidential pay is not much of a concern of voters, judging from the way they voted.

Anonymous said...

Some prophetic words by Prof Alywn Young on the sorry state of Singapore today - extracted from
THE MEDIA ENTHRALLED : FRANCIS T SEOW, PAGE 132

'During the 1993 budget debate, Information Minister Brig Gen George Yeo, professed to be 'saddened' that a recent issue of THE HAMMER had
'extracted articles written by foreigners against Singapore'. THE HAMMER had reproduced two thought-provoking articles from THE ECONOMIST issue of August 22, 1992, which was inspired by an esoteric essay '
'A TALE OF TWO CITIES : FACTOR ACCUMULATION AND TECHNICAL CHANGE
IN HONGKONG AND SINGAPORE'
written by Professor Alwyn Young of the Sloan School of Management, Massachusetts Institute of Technology , who had compared the methods used by Singapore with Hongkong in pursuit of economic growth , & concluded that Singapore had only a few more years left for economic growth unless it changed its policies :

"To put it crudely, Hongkong got richer by becoming a lot more efficient in the way it used people, capital & technology. Singapore became richer by thrusting its hands ever deeper into its citizens' pockets - through taxes, forced savings & subsidies to multinationals - & throwing the money at the problem .... For Singapore, however, Mr Young's analysis has a gruesome & more or less immediately practical implication. If he is right, Singapore has very few years of growth left along the old lines; it simply cannot extract much more savings from its people - already the biggest savers in the world - to support its craving for capital "

Veritas said...

////
"To put it crudely, Hongkong got richer by becoming a lot more efficient in the way it used people, capital & technology. Singapore became richer by thrusting its hands ever deeper into its citizens' pockets - through taxes, forced savings & subsidies to multinationals - & throwing the money at the problem
////

Who is the culprit of inefficiency? Is is the hardworking citizens or politiking managers?

So instead of overhauling management culture, LKY decide to throw FT the the inefficiency problem.

The result is a spectacular stagnation in productivity, and the aggravation of the problem.

Nevertheless, FT policy prolongs the collapse of PAP system, kicking the can down the road, but it is going to give us an even more spectacular hardlanding.

Our size and infra-structure dictates that we are close to the end of FT policy and at the start of disaster.

The current state of being is going to collapse in this few years.

We just need a good crisis shock.

Anonymous said...

What I feel most uncomfortable about is the original ploy to milk the sg system to empower the ruling party. This discards the fundamentals of good governance. Though we may all know this but having starting this ball rolling,
each batch of ministers continue with the original game which was the brain child of a respected oldie. If more of the middleclass speak up or write often about this important issue, as the poor and working class do not have any time to debate over this problem, we may move forward.

Anonymous said...

Impose & increase GST to impoverish the poor.Abolish estate duty & reduce corporate tax & marginal income tax to enrich the super rich. WHERE IS THE CONSCIENCE ? MAYBE THEY WERE BORN WITHOUT CONSCIENCE !

Anonymous said...

Make no mistake, the Government of Singapore has governed well.
By all economic and public policies
it has achieved great success!

In the past 40 years, it has uplifted the standard of living here.

Food for all
Toilets for all
Clothing for all
Clean water for all
Education for all

It is said that give a person an inch and he will take a mile.

That is what we are now.
We want more & more of everything.

Does it not make us just as greedy as the elites?

If we could influence any outcome, how would that influence be like?

Anonymous said...

Singapore is now stuck with so many structural problems because no body dare question the emperor. Virtually the whole bunch up there are shallow asslickers.
Now that they are forced to open up a little we can see the worms all over the places.
The pap is heading to a dead end. Continue as a closed system and they will lose power. Open up a little and Singaporeans will see the rotteness inside. So they will also lose power. The only solution is a complete change in casts and policies. Non is able to do this.

Anonymous said...

PAP is obsessed with ensuring that only the needy gets help. It will slap itself if an "undeserving" person gets help rather than congratulate itself for helping ten other persons who truly needed help. It presumes that people are lazy, but fails to appreciate the fact that would people want to beg for help if they can find a reasonable job and earn their own wages? If Sim Ann is just repeating the same point, then pls dun waste newspaper space

Anonymous said...

Tacking inequality - Sim Ann puts the blame on globalization, meaning no solution, the system cannot do more to help. There are internal & external factors. Internal factors that contribute inequality such as allowing large influx of foreigners into Singapore not only pertaining to construction sector but to all sectors. The poor is at risk, the low-skilled is at risk, even the professionals, the executives, the middle income are all at risk. To keep wages low, Singaporeans have to accept low wages in order to be competitive with the foreigners. Singaporeans are viewed as expensive because of CPF contributions that put us into disadvantage. Foreigners are "higher skilled" than Singaporeans? No. They are employed because they are cheaper.

Retrenchment or restructuring has become an easy way to cut cost. It is the first thing that comes to mind during every economic slowdown. Out GDP growth forecast for next year will be 1% - 3%, which is norm according to PM. We are not in negative growth or recession however companies are thinking of retrenchment, taking this opportunity to cut staff and hence fattening their pay at the same time.

Singapore's assistance scheme for the needy is really for the poorest poor. There is a large group of middle income people who are feeling worse than before, especially the lower middle income household who are not disabled, aged or sicked but in need of assistance as they could be unemployed, underemployed, unable to find employment and are tied to a huge housing loan. Singaporeans are in a worse situation as our right leg is tied to our CPF while our left leg to our housing loan. All these lead to inequality as well.

Anonymous said...

Yah! who asked you to showcase your "middle incomeness" ?
If you are earning within the middle income band, how do you show it?

Buy a car?
Employ a maid?
send kids for tuition,ballet class?
Go for australian holidays?
Go Hokkaido?
Buy a 100inch LCD TV?
Buy another car?
Upgrade from HDB to CDL?

Its becos you over extend
Its bcos you want to keep up with the Lims and Tans next door!

Kia-su
and now
Kia-si

so might as well

char-si!

Anonymous said...

"There is a large group of middle income people who are feeling worse than before, especially the lower middle income household who are not disabled, aged or sicked but in need of assistance as they could be unemployed, underemployed, unable to find employment and are tied to a huge housing loan."
Anon 27/12/11 15:26

As long as they are 40% or less if they didn't vote PAP.

Or some voted PAP despite being worse than before.

And if it happened in 2011 when things are so bad for them, of course it will happen again 2016.

Anonymous said...

How it all began....


" Mohammed Bouazizi was a 26-year-old Tunisian selling fruit and vegetables in the city of Sidi Bouzid, supporting eight people on less than $150 (£100) a month.

When police confiscated his produce, claiming he didn't have the necessary permit, he doused himself in petrol and set himself alight.

His action initiated the Arab Spring that saw his country's President Ben Ali toppled and later other Middle-Eastern leaders.

Nearly three weeks after the incident, on 5 January, Bouazizi died. He was posthumously awarded the European Parliament's Sakharov prize. "

Anonymous said...

Actually don't be surprised if the poor, those who fall through the cracks, middle class worse than before, etc altogether are only 40% of eligible voters.

In other words, 60% are happy, satisfied and of course some, if not most, are rich, like Lucky Tan.

Anonymous said...

Channel NewsAsia reported on its website on 14 Dec 2011 that Taiwan (Republic of China)will reduce compulsory military service from one year to four months. (Btw, Taiwan also has compulsory military service for dual citizens).

Lucky Tan, I like your idea about reducing our high military expenditure since we are dependent on globalisation & world trade, it is better to have better and more social spending because at the end it is the nsmen who face social issues who defend the land.

If Taiwan facing a Gigantic Titan like China is confident of defending itself, why not Singapore?

Last but not least, Lucky Tan, I want to thank you for your blog! Many Thanks & A Blessed 2012!

Anonymous said...

It is possible that in some countries, majority are rich and happy.

Anonymous said...

No point branding others as socialists etc etc. Some of these terms lose their true meaning when one blindly and loosely use them.

Take for example: US where the 1% dominate policies. Democratic? really?

abc

Anonymous said...

Prepare for an incompetent Party Against People Government.

Vote for the Opposition to build up our reserve talent pool of political leaders.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

最好底牌是60%投PAP一票.

Anonymous said...

"Vote for the Opposition to build up our reserve talent pool of political leaders."
Anon 27/12/11 18:37

Can it be done in 5 years when it cannot be done in 46 years???????

Anonymous said...

Of course it can be done in 5 years.
It's different today.

Nobody believes the Party Against People anymore.
No talents want to join the party anymore.

The truth is out there.
One fiasco after another.

Anonymous said...

Look at this contradiction:

"one that encourages self-reliance instead of welfare;"

and she began with:
"For those with temporary financial difficulties, we tide them over with Fairprice vouchers and ComCare funds."

So I ask, is how is giving vouchers to people in financial difficulty going yo make them "self-reliant".

She should have helped them imrove their skills, or get them a job befitting their skills, or even setup a small business that will pay for expenses.

But alas, the govt has closed all avenues for the poor to setup shop - cant be a hawker, or sell knick-knacks at the market.

Anonymous said...

/Anonymous said...
So you see, minister or presidential pay is not much of a concern of voters, judging from the way they voted./

then why still must have the review committee after the election. maybe it is just for show & a waste of time. haha.

Anonymous said...

We must be gullible if we ever think for once the ego-hardened PAP men in power are ever gonna changed. I'm planning to migrate and retire outside singapore. I prefer to be a live as a foreigner in another country than a fucking margionalised singaporen in my own country. My advice is do not waste any more time as age is catching up. Singapore is for elites not for normal decent humans.

Anonymous said...

Whoever is that fuckeer that says socialism is bad, should be castrated. Does that fucking anonymous even care about the human condition and his fellow singaporean mens? You want people to serve and die for your NS obligation but you dont want to provide universal healthcare for your soldiers is an incompassionate citizen? Fucxking PAP ideology/ They are always right, is it? What ever they say is right, is it ? There is no alternative opinion allowed in this tiny island, is it? I would urge all NS men not to serve NS until they are gioven universal healthcare! What are we telling out future children? That dying for the country is more important than sustaining the health of its soldiers and citizens? PAP has no moral leadership nor authourity. It has become another capitalist. WHy vote to strengthen such values?

Anonymous said...

The Party Against People brought in foreigners to replace US.

It's time we vote in Opposition Members to replace THEM.

Anonymous said...

When there is such a wide gulf in perception, it simply means that your reality is vastly different from her reality.

Anonymous said...

Singapore should loan Sim Ann to the European Union.
Since she says there are so many welfare cheats there.
I'm sure they will welcome her there to help reduce the deficits.

And she can tell the European welfare cheats:
"What do you want? 3 meals in a hawker center, food court or a restaurant?"

Anonymous said...

There are things about this country which is very clear.

PAP practices political discrimination.
There is zero accountability to the public.
And of course, the latest Seng Han Thong's racial discrimination remarks on the minorities in Singapore.

Well, the minorities are an invisible bunch in Singapore these days.

I didn't expect the government to make such remarks given that my English teachers were all Indians and they were better at teaching the language than my chinese English teachers. And I'm chinese.

The last major incident was about the Indian neighbour's curry.

As a chinese singaporean, i am wondering why such discrimination on our minorities singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

Hey Sim Ann.
Bad news. Even a 3rd world country (with 1st world politicians who care for their citizens) like Venezuela believes in helping their citizens;

"Venezuela offers free surgery to remove faulty French breast implants". See hyperlink below.

Either the whole world is "out of touch" or the Party Against People is out of touch. Unable to grow its own brains & heart.

Nothing good ever grows under the shade of a giant Singapore banyan tree.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-remove-breast-implants-free-163116653.html;_ylt=ArjlBTGhS_sTFEIZ7N_HaziiuYdG;_ylu=X3oDMTQzM3M5am4xBG1pdANGaW5hbmNlIEZQIEp1bWJvdHJvbiBMaXRlBHBrZwM0ZjMzZjdmNS0yNzA2LTM2ZTUtODBmZS03YTJjODVjNjkwNWMEcG9zAzEEc2VjA2p1bWJvdHJvbgR2ZXIDZDYyMTI5MzAtMzFiMy0xMWUxLWJlZTAtNmFmNjBmYzRhM2M1;_ylg=X3oDMTFvdnRqYzJoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3

Anonymous said...

Venezuela got oil lah.

Singapore got what? Your own locked up CPF? Or your million dollar apartment?

Anonymous said...

You are right.

Venezuela got oil (a big plus)

Singapore got the Party Against People (a big minus)

Anonymous said...

Aiyah. The leaders of Singapore would rather lose billions of dollars in share investments.

Than to use the money to help Singaporeans. Especially the poor, helpless, and elderly.

Singapore got oil so what?
You think Singaporeans going to have an easier life?

Not going to happen with all our anti-people policies by the Party Against People.

Anonymous said...

LKY is a staunch advocate of inequality in income to drive human beings to work and excel. That is why he shamelessly go before the rubber-stamped parliament to justify the $million discount he and his son got from Ong Beng Seng's Hotel Properties. LKY's younger brother is a director of HP.
His the infamous anology that he is entitled to have preferential treatment in the form of an extra egg in his char kway teow to justify his special discount. Remember the discout was given in a hot property market when people lineup onite to buy properties. By his logic all those holding high positions are entitled to preferential treatment over the ordinary citizens. So LKY basically believe that certain segment of society are special and thus deserve a much better quality of life.

7-8 said...

You want to know what the real meaning of welfare is? It's when shit like this happens and the government reaches into its pockets to bail those losers out.

By the way the net loss on this transaction is approximately twice what SMRT makes in profits every year. Now you know why they got to squeeze us citizens so hard.

Anonymous said...

PAP is losing money and it has been doing damage control by transfering the cost of its mismanaged investments to Singaporeans.

That's why you're paying 15.5 out of 24 hours surcharges on your taxis. MOre will come.

They don't have to increase GST; they have deeply entrenched themselves in all their GLCs that they squueze you one way or another. The next one is on the stamp duty. The aim is to make sure the government do not make any losses when it releases its batches of upcoming BTOs.

Singapore is in dire economic mismanagement. My advice is to move out. Don't be wilful and stupid that tomorrow will be better and that this is all temporary and part of globalisation. The crux of the matter is corruption and the govenrment is getting away with its through non-tranparency and the ISA.

Why was the ISA not abolished? BEcause they have lost so much money in bad investments they can't return your CPF.

Singapore is in serious situation. If Singaporeans dont' speak now, the situation is going to get out of hand in 4-5 years time.

Anonymous said...

"Singapore is in serious situation. If Singaporeans dont' speak now, the situation is going to get out of hand in 4-5 years time."
Anon 29/12/11 23:59

But 60% don't think it is serious enough for PAP to be voted out.

Or they think the opposition will even be worse than PAP as govt.

So I think nothing will change, and whatever the situation in 4-5 years time, PAP will still be voted in as govt.

Because, if anything could have changed for the better or worse, it would have changed in 2011 already.

So 2016 will not be much different from 2011. Which means Singapore will still be politically stable, streets are peaceful and things look prosperous (at least on the outside).

Anonymous said...

"So 2016 will not be much different from 2011."

I hope you are from the Party Against People.
And this represents your party's thinking.

As for the rest of us 40%.
Party Against People does not equal Singapore.
Singapore does not equal the Party Against People.

2011 is just the beginning for the real patriots of Singapore.

Anonymous said...

//But 60% don't think it is serious enough for PAP to be voted out.
Anon. 30/12/11 08:57//

On surface, the figure (60%) looks good.

But on second thought, a ruling party with absolute control of almost everything, managed to obtain only 60% of votes indicated that its days are numbered.

Big shit, not going... said...

Talk! Talk! Talk..!

Talk till next year!

Just pack and go.. since there is no hope anyway.. talk no use, vote no use, blog no use, opposition no use,
new ministers no use..no point in declaring singapore as in deep shit.. we all know that!

Pack and go..

Anonymous said...

Vote first in GE 2016.
Then go if you want to.

Better still, go.
But continue to vote wisely!

Anonymous said...

Some predictions for Singapore 2012.

1. Big shot(s) passed away?

2. By-elections as forecasted by Tan Jee Say?

3. Big pondings or even tsunamis and earthquakes (once in 10,000 years)?

4. What else????

Anonymous said...

Example of Anti People Policies - Maid Levy
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There are laws in Singapore that will punish you if you don't look after your elderly parents.

But you & wife both need to work to pay off your high priced "subsidized" HDB flat.

So hire maid to help look after your elderly parents.

Surprise! Surprise!
Government wants to tax your act of filial piety by making you pay a maid's levy.

See how sneaky & sly the Party Against People can be.

rockabyebaby said...

When something is TOP HEAVY and bottom light what is the problem result? A mechanical engineering theory teaches that the CG or Centre of Gravaty is then HIGH. Also the bottom being light cannot take the weight of the heavy top. The object thus topples in a matter of time.

The thing with LKY and things his has muttered about absolute control without wisdom. Because he liken it to engineers and trained operators control of machinery. It is also because he cannot understand too that a mean man will not get respect except from those who are willing to believe in his view of that good cannot be attained for most except by unfairness. And so he willy-dilly in stuffs like even GRCs and exorbitant paycheques to those he wants to snuggle up to his lacking humane views and methods!

Anonymous said...

"There are laws in Singapore that will punish you if you don't look after your elderly parents."

By being more expedient rather than efficient that they like to associate themselves, they make you responsible for the ill or some other spill over negative effects that their policies may have created.

Anonymous said...

OMG she is worst than me, Big corporate like GIC & Temasek and Huge foreign investment are those enjoying low corporate tax. small company & business even they need not to pay tax after profit & losses account, but had already been siphoned off most through their business operating expenses, those she failed to mentioned I can name you a few: commercial vehicle required for- vehicle import tax , road tax, certificate of entitlement-coe , daily traveling- ERP, operating vehicle -Pertol tax, daily parking fee , all materials or goods purchase for business -GST, manpower levy for foreign worker- FWL, all license fee required for business operation, so no need in the term of corporate tax lal. better to check with an accountant first for most of the fact of levy & taxes even if can't get advise from an Economist.