Sunday, June 03, 2012

Irresponsible framing of our integration woes....

Today the Straits Times reported an interesting incident that occurred on one of our public buses.
Watch:
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A woman, with the help of the driver, took a loaded shopping trolley onto a public bus. What is incredible is not just this amusing incident itself but Straits Times' report on the incident. The witness to the incident who posted the video on YouTube said that both the driver and woman were "PRCs" -  a term commonly used to describe mainland Chinese who have come here recently retaining much of their language, habits and culture etc. This piece of information missing from the Straits Times report is key because given China is so big it is possible that in some parts of China, it is actually common practice to bring trolleys onto public buses. The woman may be just unaware that such practices are not allowed here.  If the driver knew it was wrong, why would he risk his job to help the woman?

I once saw a foreigner (his clothes and mannerism were dead giveaways) push an NTUC Fairprice trolley along a pavement. The nearest NTUC supermarket  is 400 meters from where I spotted him. Maybe in some parts of the world this is common practice. I would give these people some benefit of the doubt that they are not so familiar with the rules here. One important part of integrating people is for them to learn the rules here. There are written rules and unwritten rules ...and in Singapore we have mamy rules so it takes time to integrate people.

I have seen Indian Singaporeans and Malay Singaporeans going up a bus to ask for directions and the bus driver from PRC couldn't help them because he spoke no English. It is not his fault because when he was hired by the bus company there was no requirement for him to speak English.

In the recent incident involving a Ferrari and a taxi, many Singaporeans asked if we should allow foreign drivers to just go onto our roads especially if they are from countries where the driving standards and  habits are completely different from ours - this is a legitimate question.
It takes time for us to get used to their behaviour and for them to get used to ours. This is a long and sometimes frustrating process but the difficulties should surprise no one. As a result of frustration, Singaporeans have expressed the the problems they face and unhappiness resulting from these integration problems on the Internet. Where else can they bring up and highlight these problems? The mainstream paper tends to obscure the facts (like in the trolley incident) and play up the "intolerance" of Singaporeans in such situations.

Because of the high influx of foreigners, Singaporeans have suffered from structural unemployment, depressed wages, high cost of living and crowded public transportation. There is higher competition now for many things from jobs to cars (COE) to university places.
"The truth is that we pay some workers such low wages not primarily because their productivity is inherently low but largely because they are competing against an unlimited supply of cheap foreign workers." - Tommy Koh

The fear of income and job loss among Singaporeans is a real one. The effects of overcrowding has undermined the quality of life here. The high foreign influx has generated negative sentiment and fueled the anger among some Singaporeans. Some Singaporeans have turned to the Internet to express this anger. While this anger finds outlets in specific events involving foreign individuals, the underlying cause of this anger is unhappiness over the policy to allow the high foreign influx.


The mainstream media and PAP politicians have started to frame the concerns and unhappiness as "anti-foreigner" sentiments[Has anti-foreigner sentiment gone too far] and "tirades". Through this re-casting of the problem,  the MSM and PAP puts the blame on Singaporeans for being intolerant and harboring "anti-foreigner" sentiments. This characterisation is not only incorrect, it is unfair to Singaporeans who have suffered from PAP policies. While this "blame the victim" approach has been used by the PAP to promote their past policies, there is general consensus on the ground against the high foreign influx. This tactic to turn play one group Singaporeans against another in order to achieve their own political goal will divide Singaporeans. Singaporeans should not "stand up against" one another on this, we should stand to gather in order to move ahead on this issue.

Nowhere else in the world have citizens been as tolerant as Singaporeans when it comes to the acceptance of foreigners. Just look at what has happened in Australia and Hong Kong[Link] where there has been a far stronger reaction even though the influx to those places is far lower on a per capita basis. Singaporeans have only reacted because the numbers have become so large and they have personally experienced the negative effects of these policies. The concerns of Singaporeans have to be properly addressed and the the policy must benefit native Singaporeans as a whole in the long run. Otherwise, Singaporeans will oppose the liberal immigrant policy to stop further deterioration to their quality of life.

Labelling those who oppose the liberal immigration policies as "anti-foreigners" and calling their expression of frustration "tirades" are irresponsible attempts to divide Singaporeans in order to advance a policy seen as harmful by most Singaporeans. The focus of govt should be on how the problems faced by Singaporeans should be addressed and on changes that will lead to long term benefits for Singaporeans. By failing to do this, the govt has deepened the anger and opposition to this policy. By putting forth fallacious arguments such as foreigners create jobs for Singaporeans when more than 70% jobs created are taken up by foreigners [Link]they have added to the frustration and anger.

We all know that foreigners are here because they want to have higher incomes to create a better future for themselves and their families . We, Singaporeans, will do the same if we are in their shoes.  It is not their fault that integration problems have arisen and our public transport is overcrowded just as it is not the fault of Singaporeans that they feel frustrated and angry with the situation. We depend on our leaders to formulate beneficial policies and get the numbers right to achieve the desired outcomes. When they don't do their job well, it is unfair and irresponsible to blame Singaporeans who are at the receiving end of their policies.

76 comments:

Lye Khuen Way said...

Lucky, in his usual fair play sense is giving these new comers room. Well and good.
It is just unfair for us, to accommodate in one go that many. The Govt appeared to be ignorant of the numbers and its impacts. Or dare I conclude that they were aware and wanted to test if we could stomach many more ?
Maybe ,a riot or two will drive home the point, no ?

Anonymous said...

What the ST did not report and what many S'poreans already know it that these foreigners bring their own rules or rather, choose to ignore local culture. Those will read alternative news sites will get the true picture, not the twisted news from ST. When you have almost a million PRCs here, they will exert their rules.

Anonymous said...

"By putting forth fallacious arguments such as foreigners create jobs for Singaporeans when more than 70% jobs created are taken up foreigners [Link]they have added to the frustration and anger."
Lucky Tan

Lucky, if this is so, how do you reconcile this to the fact that PAP had even gained more votes in Hougang BE 2012 compared to GE 2011???

Why the added frustration and anger as you mentioned did not result in PAP losing more votes?

Why?

Anonymous said...

"Why the added frustration and anger as you mentioned did not result in PAP losing more votes?"
Anon 3/6/12 08:44

Maybe the opposition also had added more frustration and anger to Singaporeans.

That's why you see the vote for opposition WP had become less in Hougang BE 2012.

Anonymous said...

A gained of 100 votes is a victory for PAP? PLEASE. Despite, the heavy onslaught by PAP bigwigs, despite the internal woes of WP (which was overplayed by the mass media), that's all the gain they can have. It was a pathetic result for PAP.

PAP supporters can spin the results anyway they want, but at the end, the public is the judge. It was a resounding victory for WP.

Lye Khuen Way said...

Allow me to venture a possible answer ro Anon 8:44.
Desmond Choo in his very personal, sincere way vistiting those household, sure touch a fair number of fence sitters. Maybe, they were new citizens.
Doubt WP is too concerned about that absolute number.
Lucky Tan may have his opinion to share.

Anonymous said...

Add to this is the so called NIMBY coined by PAP to pit one group of residents against another group instead of doing proper planning.

Anonymous said...

Many of us now feel very shameful of being Singaporean .........

.....as our own government do not protect its own singapore citizen but allow all Tom, Dick and harry foreigners to come in to take our jobs unreasonably and all these foreigners come into our country mess up society

We feel very "dirty" now like "prostitute" that allow all kind of Tom Dick Harry come in and our leg all the time to welcome them....while our heart "hurt with tear"....and we all have to do this as the government just want boost GDP and continue to remain world highest pay cabinet...yeah….we are just their poor tooling …..as we only have miserable 3.5 millions of singaporean and how to feed their appetite of millions dollars cabinet?
....... Why these world highest pay cabinet unwilling to think of innvoative/creative/ revolutionary policy to protect his own people….baecuase import foreigner into Singapore is the fastest and cheapest way to boost economics and money to satisfy their own greed!

Anonymous said...

I don't blame the foreigners.
That's what the Pro Alien politicians want.

I hold the Pro Alien Party and its Prime Millionaire responsible.

For my children's sake.
GE 2016.
I make my stand.

Anonymous said...

Foreigners cannot "fix" Singaporeans.

Only Pro Alien politicians can "fix" Singaporeans.
GE 2016.
Don't let them fix you again.

Anonymous said...

We must not only seek for 'change', but also vote out the majority in 2016.

Let's do it!

Anonymous said...

Tharman says an "inclusive society" achievable for all Singaporeans in the next 10 years.

What is Tharman saying?
Hasn't PAP been working for an inclusive society for the last 46 years since 1965?

Why wait so long?
GE 2016.
Vote wisely.
And we can achieve our inclusive society in 4 years.


SOURCE:
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/govt-build-inclusive-stronger-singapore-090403197.html

Anonymous said...

Children will think for themselves.

I vote for my own interests.

Anyway, the constitution is not written in stone, neither are laws.

Vote for the party
Not the candidate

Vote for the party
Never the candidate

Vote for the party
The party must be the majority

Vote for the party
View the candidate as entertainment..

VOTE FOR THE P A R T Y !!!!!!

Anonymous said...

What Governments fear most?

What do political parties fear most?

What does the Prime Minister fear most?

What does LKY fear most?

Death?
Pain?

Loss of money?
Loss of ego?
Loss of face?
Loss of home?
Loss of family?
Loss of children?

What do ministers fear most?

Do they fear anything at all?

They do have fears

Find that fear

Understand it

Work at it

The alternative is:

What excites them?

What motivates them?

What gives them reason to continue?

What pleases them most?

Understand

DanielXX said...

It's the system that's faulty. I agree with you that the foreigners are not to be blamed; it is the people who administer the system who should be. I'm not sure what they're guilty of though: moral corruption, or simply incompetent negligence?

Anonymous said...

Who cares about the Ministers?
Just vote Opposition.

Then the Ministers will have ask us what WE want.

Anonymous said...

Singapore has the most complicated and expensive system of owning a car in the world.

Such a small island.
And still cannot manage the car population.

Do you think we have a competent government piloting this aeroplane?

Anonymous said...

The pap Leegime is definitely responsible for destroying the fabric of Singaporean society. Singaporeans are ready to explode. The level of anger and frustration is very very high. It is their kiasu attitude, harsh law and brutal police which are preventing massive demonstations from erupting in Singapore. Like a suppress volcano when it do erupt the damages will be a thousand folds.
The pap Leegime is leading Singapore and Singaporeans into a major disaster.

Anonymous said...

ST editor still has the audacity to say that they are neutral. Warren Buffett recently said that it is vital for newspapers to stay neutral in reporting politics. He doesnt order his newspapers to write good articles in support of Obama, who Buffett likes.

It is little wonder that S'pore press are ranked 150 out of 197 for press freedom. The reality is SPH is an instrument of PAP, a very important arseanal of P

Anonymous said...

ST's news headline for the Hong Lim Park gathering in opposing ISA was "Remember Marxist Conspiracy".

It is absolutely stunning that ST used such. Misleading headline. It suggests that those innocent folks arrested were guilty

Anonymous said...

What to do, the opposition cannot become govt because 60% voted PAP what.

If WP had won 80 seats instead of 6 seats in GE 2011, I am sure the ST would not be reporting the way they reported, tio bo?

Anonymous said...

How i wish today is the last day of 2015. Just can't wait any longer to vote out the incompetent and self-serving pigs!!!!

Anonymous said...

*cough*
those who still talk about why PAP had more votes in BE2012 than in GE2011 from Hougang, i believe u forget one factor:

there are more kiddos that are eligible to vote than last year, oh, don't forget more FT than last year too.

Anonymous said...

The millionaires have been running around unsupervised for far too long.

GE 2016.
Let's bring in some adult supervision in parliament.
Vote Opposition.

Anonymous said...

It's the fault of the people who refuse to reproduce! The government had to correct for that by importing new citizens and prs.
Jobs were created by foreigners for Singaporeans but locals were too choosy, resulting in most of the jobs created going to foreigners. Notice that all the top jobs paying million$$$ in our government ministries are held by citizens only?

Anonymous said...

What's the point of complaining endlessly when there is no change in sight or will it be in any foreseeable future? Singaporeans should stop complaining and start doing things that can get the change they want, starting from the ballot box.

Anonymous said...

I am all for foreign talents replacing our cabinet. The cheaper and more talented foreign Ministers will definitely save alot of money for the tax-payers.

Anonymous said...

Complaining about Ministers implementing policies not in the interest for the welfare of the citizens will not change them a single bit They are what they are. The citizens deserve the government they vote for so whatever miseries and hardships one endured today is self-inflicted. So vote wisely. judge a party by what they good they have actually done for the people not by what they say.

Anonymous said...

@Anon 16:43
Agree, Sinkies should start doing something for themselves, but not at the ballot box. The better way is to go get a migration applications at the foreign mission.
There is no way you can vote out the PAP, the Lees are going to rule over you for a long time to come, not in the next 30 yrs.
Of cos, it depends on your age, I am almost 50, no way I can wait 30 yrs.
I am not sure where you meet people, similar to those that post comments here or TRE or TOC.
Unfortunately, people that I meet and know, friends and relatives, are mostly ST readers, and yes, PAP supporters. I have always been rebutted for being pro oppositions. I get to know a fair share of those 60%.
Don't blame me for giving up. I am lucky enough to be on my way out in the near future. good luck to you guys.

Anonymous said...

They are cleverly trying to label people as 'xenophobes' when they start expressing their displeasures against the "influx of foreigners' , but primarily against the anti-emigration policy.

Singaporeans of all ages should not be afraid to say and speak out their mind against the govt.'s ill-discrimination. All these are forcibly going to translate into real new votes for them by 2016.

Mostly, I am tired of their constant broken records that our ancestors were also migrants. Thus we should not begrudge other new migrants. What they forgot is that our grandparents/parents came here first as migrants in a "trading hub" for jobs. They didn't come here first and foremost to take up citizenship of the british colony (then). IT is only when SG was annexed and forcibly become independent, that they have to choose between forgoing their ancestors countries (ie. China/India Vietnam/Malaysia etc), and they deliberately choose and decided to be a SINGAPOREAN. Because they were promised a new country with new citizenship to build a new home. That's what they have settled for...they didn't come here to settle for Singapore so that 4 generations down the road, it will become another "global trading hubs" , instead of a british trading hub!! Myself and our children didn't grow up here so that we have to accept more migrants to grow this country!!! So STOP Shortchanging our generations and our ancestors!!

Apparently - this govtment under PAP is only interested in the 2-3 birds in the bushes than the one they already have in their hands.

And the presstitutes can go screw themselves however they want to call this integration. For when the revolution do hit Singapore one day, SPH will be the first place people occupy. Just like the Ministry of Information from Baghdad when Hussien Saddam was captured. They shot the MICA guy for spreading such nonsense from the regime instead of speaking it out for the people.

Anonymous said...

As usual traditional medias are at it again, helping the PAP to call us names, and pushing every blames on the people except the failed policies. A year ago, PAP ministers were all peeing in their pants to buy votes and LHL was forced to apologise to its people. Now...they know no remorse. I am determined to vote all PAP MINISTERS OUT of parliament and I don't give a damn as long as PAP is out of my sight for good!! I want to help revamp Singapore our ways and urged all SINGAPOREANS to stand united in the next election to make historical landmark political change that wow'ed the world that we Singaporeans are not weakling and tyrants will face its days. We will sue PAP and bring them to court for all our sufferings! Enough is enough, we can no longer tolerate the way Traiditional medias carried out its report that is harmful to the people and devoid of truth.

Anonymous said...

Singapore is a very small island.
And yet a dangerous limping terrorist managed to escape from our shores.

If our government is unable to secure our tiny coastline;
Is our CPF money still secure?

By increasing our CPF Minimum Sum, we end up keeping more and more of our CPF money with this government.
Is our CPF money still safe?

We need more Opposition safeguards in parliament to protect our CPF money.

Anonymous said...

don't insult your own intelligence pls...

Anonymous said...

I have been wondering when are the papies going to rename this country, formerly known as Singapore?

Anonymous said...

Sarcasm
Bitching
Blogging
Questioning
Accusing
Repeating

will not change one iota
( maybe get sued though )

But your vote will

Vote please.

Spoiling vote is useless.. you might as well be a foreigner.

Anonymous said...

Is it right for the PAP government to patronise and condescend Singaporeans by blaming them for anti-foreigners sentiments?

When has the PAP ever accepted responsibility? They have an unbelievably poor track record at accepting responsibility. When Mas Selamat escape, the minister also escape. This is what our government has been about. That includes the blame game made on the so-called Marxist conspirators. There is no story. They can even make up a story. But where is their accountability?

In what way is the States Times providing a 'fair and balanced' reporting on this matter as it claims to do on all reports in Singapore?

Why is the State media playing up on the foreigner sentiments? What could have led to so many Singaporeans upset over this matter?

Why are Singaporeans not wanting to integrate with someone who doesn't want curry to be cooked in a HDB flat? What is putting so many Singaporeans off?

What policy is causing this great unhappiness and now discord that we see in our daily life?

Why does the government moved in so fast from its specialty: adhominem attacks on the integrity of its political opponents to now, us Singaporeans instead? If the government can engage in verbal attacks and discrediting of other Singaporean politicians; blaming and discrediting Singaporeans is but a mere one step away. So we witness our government now turning against the very voters themselves.

Why should Singaporeans tolerate such an ungracious and selfish leadership?

How come Singaporeans do not speak out on what makes them unhappy? It is as if the government thinks Singaporeans can't think for themselves or have an independent mind without the government leading them? The government seems to think itself elite for coming up with a novel idea of building 2 gambling centers/casinos as innovative approach to build up an economy?

To what extent ought we trust this government for what it asserts given its poor track records these past 10 years?

Anonymous said...

Is it right for the PAP government to patronise and condescend Singaporeans by blaming them for anti-foreigners sentiments?

When has the PAP ever accepted responsibility? They have an unbelievably poor track record at accepting responsibility. When Mas Selamat escape, the minister also escape. This is what our government has been about. That includes the blame game made on the so-called Marxist conspirators. There is no story. They can even make up a story. But where is their accountability?

In what way is the States Times providing a 'fair and balanced' reporting on this matter as it claims to do on all reports in Singapore?

Why is the State media playing up on the foreigner sentiments? What could have led to so many Singaporeans upset over this matter?

Why are Singaporeans not wanting to integrate with someone who doesn't want curry to be cooked in a HDB flat? What is putting so many Singaporeans off?

What policy is causing this great unhappiness and now discord that we see in our daily life?

Why does the government moved in so fast from its specialty: adhominem attacks on the integrity of its political opponents to now, us Singaporeans instead? If the government can engage in verbal attacks and discrediting of other Singaporean politicians; blaming and discrediting Singaporeans is but a mere one step away. So we witness our government now turning against the very voters themselves.

Why should Singaporeans tolerate such an ungracious and selfish leadership?

How come Singaporeans do not speak out on what makes them unhappy? It is as if the government thinks Singaporeans can't think for themselves or have an independent mind without the government leading them? The government seems to think itself elite for coming up with a novel idea of building 2 gambling centers/casinos as innovative approach to build up an economy?

To what extent ought we trust this government for what it asserts given its poor track records these past 10 years?

Anonymous said...

Singapore needs to make a fresh start without the rose-tinted men in white.

Singaporeans need a fresh start. White is the color of staleness.

Anonymous said...

What's the point if they say they are open minded but their are closed?

What's the point if your shirt and pants are white, but your heart is black?

What's the point too if the singaporeans have eyes but can't see what this government is doing?

Singaporeans are short-changed dafties who don't know what is good for them until they are fully tested by the PAP policies.

Anonymous said...

The HDB estate around Jurong Point have shopping trolleys from NTUC at just about every block. It has become a norm and NTUC sends their staff to retrieve these trolleys from the void decks daily.

Pushing a trolley up a shuttle bus means the supermarket will never see the trolley again. I believe PAP's poodles like to call it 'theft from dwelling'?

Yours Toothfully said...

We can't simplistically label one group as pro-immigration and another as anti-immigration. They are trying to borrow an imaginary knife from one group to kill the other group. But the feelings involved are complex. Every Singaporean is pro-immigration to a certain extent. At the same time, he/she may have his/her reservations about apparent fvouritism and the implementation of certain policies.

Snark said...

Whitees are probably not even trying to sell the idea of we need foreigners nicely anymore. Now it's either staying silent while bringing in truckloads of them, open defiance in playing the xenophobic card and using the msm for their dirty work.

The fact that when you bring in tons of people from outside local culture is going to get diluted, no matter people might say about Singapore being 'cultureless'.

Singapore did not crop up over night and nor did we become Singapore just on Aug 1965.

However, with the reckless flood of 'foreign talent', it seems our old Singapore as we know it might just disappear.

Anonymous said...

Recent poll shows majority of sinkies supporting the PAP policies.

No eyes to see in GE2016.

Anonymous said...

ANON: 3/6/12 19:42
"I have been wondering when are the papies going to rename this country, formerly known as Singapore?"

Somebody paid $100 million dollars for the privilege of renaming a hospital.

So the naming rights to Singapore should be worth at least more than $100 million dollars.

Anonymous said...

Bitching about Millionaires-In-White will not change anything.

But bitching and forwarding e-mails to friends and family might.

Talking & persuading friends & family to vote Opposition might.

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans are blamed for being anti-foreigner, not integrating & commodating foreigners. Foreigners should integrate, learn and respect the practices and rules in Singapore, while retaining their own identity and culture.
Agreeing with Lucky : "Nowhere else in the world have citizens been as tolerant as Singaporeans when it comes to the acceptance of foreigners."
It takes time for foreigners to integrate into another country. It takes the second or third generatiom to fully integrate into the country. Just like our forefathers who came from China, they were looking for work & better life for themselves and their families. After they have found work here, they sent for their families in China to join them & they settled down here.

However it is a different scenerio today. Foreigners come here for work & better opportunities, they are not going to settle down here. They can have the best of both worlds with our liberal immigration policies, not being citizens while enjoying the benefits.
So they are not obliged to learn the practices and rules here, they will continue with their way of life, practices back home here as well. This will continue to lead to anger, frustration & lower quality of life for Singaporeans.

That we may dream again attendee said...

People of Singapore, do not just sit there and be keyboard warriors, unless you can write as well as Lucky.

Do something. Research with Internet the civil causes you most identify with. Join the group. Be a volunteer. Attend the events. Sign the petition. Put younamath down. donate to alternative news website. We need every unhappy Singaporean to take actions so that real change can come in 2016.

Since Lucky started blogging in 205, we had missed the boat in 2006 and 2011. If you are contented with being a sitting duck posting your disgruntlement online, then you deserve to have 60% daft and elite Singaporeans screw you again in2016.

Anonymous said...

Not sure how to put it...

PAP ask local singaporeans not to be anti-foreigner via their pet fully controlled media and straits time papers..

But the PAP themselves are ANTI SINGAPOREANS...

What the fug!

How 2 faced more can the white clothed parasites go...

Crazy truely mindless parasitical and not truely wise people in charge of singapore!

Anonymous said...

Wah, limpeh ah gong can go retrieve trolley and collect $1. Beat collecting can and sell tissue. Where the $1 coins ah?

Anonymous said...

The government still thinks that all Singaporeans are as ignorant as those in 1970s. We don't need MPs that help to refer us to this organisation or that or to write letters. We need MPs who can speak up for us for policies that are adversely affecting us.

It fields "capable people" to run our country like a company.

When we go for job interview, the potential employers would prefer someone with relevant experience. But in our cabinet, a doctor can "cure" the rising property prices? Another doctor, with no engineering background, tasked to tackle flooding problems? A few BG from army are tasked to do things that's irrelevent to their previous experience....can they really help S'poreans?

Anonymous said...

These inexperienced "experts" are there to help the Pro Alien Party.
Not to help you, the people.

When there is real work to be done.
It's performed by the Committee of Inquiry.
Or foreign experts flown in from overseas.

Just how difficult is it to govern and manage a small island?

You got to be a really useless talent to screw up a small railway system on a tiny island.

So how difficult is it to manage your own money for retirement?
So difficult that you must leave a minimum sum with the government for "safe keeping"?

Anonymous said...

The credibility of this Pro Alien Party, by virtue of flooding this island with abundance of foreigners, had crashed to zero.
This Pro Alien Party is using the sneaky mainstream media to cover up the bad open door policy.
How can you believe in sneaky snakes report?

Awakened said...

Change won't come in GE 2016. There is a slightly bloated frame of reality in this blog. The 40% needs to start talking to the 60%.

IN the meantime, I'll work hard to leave Singapore while the fools are busy selling and buying hope that things will change in GE 2016.

Nothing has really and fundamentally changed even after GE 2011. I hope many can see that.

I would like to point out that not even incremental change is taking place; even after the recent by-election. The government is not turning away from its path.

They continue as they are primarily because they have figured out a way for GE 2016.

Remember when the votes dropped in the 80s, they introduced the GRC system.

In the 90s, they bankrupted politicians. In the late 90s till early of this century, they had gerrymandered, buy votes through ERS, NSS, Progress Package.

Then they redrew the election boundaries.

Dear LT,

Mark my words. They have found a way out for GE 2016. And the masterplan will be revealed.

They will offer blue i/cs pink ones and invite them for new citizenship. This has already happened. In my company, foreigners get their PRs within 6 months and then a letter that tells them that in 2 years later, they will be eligible for pink ics and with that an election polling card.

That's why they will continue to marginalise, condescend and patronise Singaporeans.

But I'm not waiting for this to happen. I'm taking off.

Cheers!

Anonymous said...

paps are living in their private housing, they're unaware what's happening in the hdb. even they do, i don't think they ever care.
recently at a pasam malam florist stall, i chat up with one woman , at first our conversation was about plant, later came another women saying she worried her FT neighbor might cut off her plant, from there the FT issue started. not so good comments. the first one was fed up the noises cause by her neighbors and her neighbor's tenants, she turned to see her MP few times, but couldn't get to her. the unhappiness was so real. you tell me if any mp or ministers care about this? neighbour in hell makes yr life so much misery, it links to life quality and mental stress eventaully health problem. this notion prevent me from downgrading. i just pray my current neighbous stay as long as they can. if u have not so bad neighbors, consider you'd struck a lottery, given the so called FT situation right here. i sincerely pray.
btw, one woman explained to me why hougang residents still voted "huat ah" despite his bad coverage from medias, yes, we are all too terrified, so terrified that one party govt's wilfulness that cause so much misery on the ground.

Anonymous said...

maybe we are too friendly allowing unfair comments imposing on us. maybe we should do something, why in the world that some ethnic group brazenly only hired their kind so openly in this country while they often get whack in australia, poland and other part of europe too, has a strong feeling of anti immigrant. this has something to do with the respect of a country. if u like beggers , promising jobs and secure uni place for them. begging around them like a cheap whore, u won't get the reputation u want. the act of "hua lelong" only backfire. where else but in singapore can you find foreigners , be it rich or poor, from third world country or first world country,living so please and laughing so loud like in their own country? i am not bias, u can tell from their faces. some FW even rush to chop seats when enter into mrt train. this is the telling sign that they live here like fish in the water. so,are they blind or we are dumb? we are friendly ppl, but not now, we shouldn't be friendly when being pushed to such extent. we shouldn't pay attention to some moronic speaking.

Lao Sai said...

Some Singaporean seriously Lao Sai after eating the foreign food served by the PAP government, and instead of checking the food for viruses and bacteria, some retard PAP ministers keep blaming those Singaporean, "It is wrong to Lao Sai.."

One minister even instigate a minority group to condemn the Lao Sai Singaporean!!

This is the sorry state Singaporean find themselves in.

Anonymous said...

So is this what you guys really think?

That the Pro Alien Party is an anti-Singaporean party?

Anonymous said...

The FAP will do anything to retain power in Singapore.

That also includes accepting migrants in on a large scale so that these people will vote for them.

If FAP hasn't done that 10 years ago, they would have lost in the earlier elections already, no doubt about it.


But good thing about 2016 GE is, the country is maxed out in terms of space and infrastructure. They will not be able to accept one or two million more people to vote for them. And also, the people that they have brought in would have also learnt about how nasty they are and would switch votes to the opposition. Younger voters would also vote towards opposition.

The only eventual result for the FAP would be a big loss in 2016, or 2020. Remember that Singapore is a small country with a small infrastructure. No matter how many people the FAP is going to bring in, there is always a limit.

And also, this thing called a limit, also brings about how many times these idiots can win at elections, and the limit is very near.

Anonymous said...

"And also, this thing called a limit, also brings about how many times these idiots can win at elections, and the limit is very near."
Anon 5/6/12 12:12

In GE 2011, PAP got 35% votes in Hougang.

In BE 2012, PAP got 37% votes in Hougang!!!!!

In GE 2016, PAP will do better, based on the trend of increasing its votes.

So what limit and what near are you talking about?

Singaporearmchaircritic said...

Thanks for highlighting this. The framing of Singaporeans' unhappiness as "anti-foreigner sentiments" and even "xenophobia" is an attempt to shift the focus away from our government’s overly liberal immigration policy and lay the blame on its critics. Too convenient, I say.

If you see this against the onslaught of media reports on how Singapore’s Total Fertility Rate is too low and a think tank’s recommendation of another 20,000 to 25,000 migrants into Singapore per year, the intent is very clear. Singaporeans should not fall for it.

Anonymous said...

The way I look at it, there will never be an answer as loon as the PAP stays in power. And the way I look at it, the PAP will try ways and means to stay in power so as not to answer those pertinment questions.

And from the way this issue has been festering, I think the reserves are already going or mostly gone.

Forget about the answer that revealing the reserves will jeopardise our national security. That is all bullshit.

YMC said...

But if the PAP doesn't allow cheap foreign workers into the country - then we have to pay more to Singaporeans to do the job and our cost of living will rise and the GDP will fall and worse of all - the PAP Ministers and top civil servants cannot keep on paying themselves massively high salaries - why, they might even have to settle for $300k a year salaries!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

Anonymous said...

Very well written, agree with all of your points. The papppies are trying too hard to justify their policies, and then play the blame game when things don't look so good for them.

Why they so like that? said...

So many times Indians from India cut queues at bus terminals and taxi queues. I have to talk to at least 4 Indian families at Singapore Zoo and Tampines IKEA, telling them the queue starts 'here', where they inserted themselves.

Anonymous said...

What has happened to Singapore nowadays? I used to be a skilled worker there. not a PRC though. I respect, abide and assimilated well to the locals. Now I'm in the US...But I still miss Singapore a lot.What's sad is days passed can only be relived in my mind.

Anonymous said...

I'm an ang mo as you like to classify me. I have studied, worked and lived in several countries and all countries have racism in one or an other way. After living in sg for almost two years now I must say that I have never come across a more socially accepted racism anywhere else in the world.

Who built Singapore? Not the Singaporeans , not the foreigners, they did it together largely with foreign investments.


No where else in the world you fun a country panicking about ~4 % unemployment. Something like that is needed to have a functional employment market with both demand and supply an at the same time keep salary development and inflation within control.


Ok so what if we all leave you Singaporeans be and go to other countries interested in development in a global world? Who will build your condos, who will clean your condos, who will do all the jobs you don't even want to do? I'm pretty sure you do not wan to pay a Singaporean to do those jobs for a salary a Singaporean would demand.


Singapore became hat it is today by being internationally attractive and competitive. The only way to keep that and continue is to be internationally attractive and competitive. The route many Singaporeans wants to take will slowly strangle sibgapore's advantage and development.


Wake up in your Singaporean bubble and look around and learn from each other. We live in a modern and globalized world where knowledge, creativity and cooperation is the only way to success.

Anonymous said...

All the bitching and complaining, yet when the time that counts comes around, you dummys vote them in again.

You think the PAP has only just started having bad, self serving policies? They only just started hiding facts and lying to the public? They only just started manipulating the media?

This has been going on FOREVER! They were formed by a two faced, dishonorable, weasel of a man who since the 60s when was part of the opposition would say anything and pormise anything to get what he wants then turn around and stab the people who helped him get where he was!

He was a damn traitor who worked for the Japanese when our grandfathers and fathers were fighting for Singapore for goodness sakes!

In the 80s he finally conned his peers into stepping down while he stayed on and ruled with cronyism and nepotism!

He shaped the PAP into the ugly animal it is today.

The dirty traits of the PAP showed from way back with no accountability or transparency! The sure sign of any corrupt regime!

Yet as long as they threw a bone to the population, you gladly voted them in no matter how many OTHER Singaporeans suffered from their badly formed policies right?

Only now that their poorly thought out policies are affecting you that you voice out?

Singapore has the government Singapore deserves.

You all see the builldings and infrastructure from way before the PAP was formed. You all studied history and know the strategical location of Singapore on the map, its location on the trading routes. You all know it was called the Gibraltar of the East since the 20s, the Impenetrable fortress (but the Japs came from the rear)... Why? To protect a "sleepy fishing village"?

The PAP has been using their media To lie to us and rewrite history all along, yet you don't open your own eyes, use your own heads and think!

Come 2016, these PAP conmen will shed more crocodile tears, use their pork barrel politics to threaten the population again with "upgrading" and idiots will still vote them in.

Anonymous said...

See what crap mediacorp is feeding our kids with. This show is called 'my home is united nations' (direct translation').. Feeding them propaganda from young, sigh..
Http://entertainment.xin.msn.com/zh/tv/channel-8/programmes/《我家是联合国》home-of-united-nations

Anonymous said...

As a result, he said, the latter are forced to accept lower pay, for less desirable work, which ultimately results in a lower quality of life for many locals.

In an interview with IPS Sadasivan explained that the two most incendiary issues surrounding immigration are education and military service.

While all young Singaporean men past the age of 17 are required to spend two and a half years in the armed forces, foreign nationals are only obliged to send their sons, while the principal immigration applicant is exempt from compulsory military service.

Meanwhile, a growing number of Chinese and Indian nationals are being admitted to Singaporean universities while many eligible Singaporean students are denied access to higher learning institutions, a situation that has fueled widespread discontent.

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“Singaporeans feel shortchanged,” Sadasivan noted, adding, “In many other countries such issues could become emotionally charged enough to topple governments.”

Anonymous said...

The working class Singaporeans today are well educated and well travelled but many are too caught up with their lives that they dont see what is happening. Cost of living growing at faster rate than salaries, basic necessitites like home and vehicle are expensive, hard earned money locked in until you die (CPF), people tell you how much of your own money can be used when you are sick (medisave), young children living up to ever increasing standards of grading....all these is happening when families are too busy to earn living and plan for their retirement which may never quite happen....because they tell you that they have everything in control....
Why?
Because they are the one controlling you. And you are the one working for them, not the other way round.
They have already lots of money and still continue to be allowed to do so
Decide for yourself
Singapore is a nation with many high standards but look at other countries, whether rich or poor, big or small, they all have a voice that represent them, in different newsprint
This so called first class nation allows its people only one national newspaper that is controlled by the ruling party (that has never been replaced)
That is how YOU are being controlled, wake up people before GE2016

Anonymous said...

People undermine how powerful media can become. Media can brainwash an entire generation (and as singapore has proved it, even brain washing multi generations is possible).

There is a reason why some say Singaporeans do not know their rights. There is truth to it.

Imagine being read the same book since the day you are born. That book is titled "The Straits Times"

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