Tuesday, July 17, 2012

Crafting a bogus narrative for the imported labor issue.......

Public support is needed on the balance the Government should strike between economic growth and inflow of foreigners, said Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen yesterday.
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The country should not pretend that balancing economic growth with foreigner inflow is easy, he said, adding that "the balance is based on what Singaporeans are willing to support, because if you tighten too much, your jobs are at risk".
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Besides such a risk, "because you become less competitive in essential services...your quality of life will be affected", he said. - [Link]
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If you have not noticed, the PAP has turned the tables around to put the onus on Singaporeans to integrate. The balance now is between what "Singaporeans are willing to support" and "economic growth" which is equated to jobs and quality of life. The PAP is saying if you don't support the foreign influx, you are risking jobs and your quality of life.
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Let me ask you a simple question has your quality of life improved in the last 10 years when Singapore had the one of the highest, if not the highest rate of foreign influx per capita in the world? Has structural unemployment and job security improved in those years? The PAP is saying now if you accept more foreigners and integrate well with them your quality of life will improve and there is less risk of losing your jobs. If the whole thing come apart, it is due to your inability to integrate well. It is hard to believe the PAP govt is trying to sell us this and treat Singaporeans as people unable to think.

The truth is our economic system has become dependent on this influx for growth. But this type of growth by expanding the workforce is not sustainable. Our population density is already the highest in world. Singaporeans have experienced for themselves what this method of growing the economy leads to. It is not going to bring quality of life. It is not going to bring job security.Our structural unemployment which is the form of unemployment Singaporeans fear most - losing their jobs at age 40 is caused by the large foreign influx supplying the labor market with young workers reducing the incentive for employers to retain older workers. There is no shortage of jobs otherwise why do we need to import foreigners to fill jobs. The problem is quality of jobs, salaries and structural unemployment...all of these made worse by the foreign influx. There has never been "balance" in PAP's foreign influx policy. The extreme nature of these polices have led to extreme results - highest income inequality in the world, rising poverty and cost of living.

The real problem now for the Singapore economy is the high dependency on cheap imported labor. The PAP govt has neglected productivity imrpovements brought about by leveraging on technological innovations and did not seek out new upstream areas of growth that will create high quality jobs. We are now stuck in this cycle of dependency and the PAP is telling us to accept more of the same because they have no more new ideas. Lets face it, things are not gaing to get better unless bold changes are made. If the PAP does the same things as they did in the last 10 years, nothing is going to improve. They are the ones risking their jobs and our quality of life by insisting we go along the same path...we know clearly where it will take us and we don't want to go there.

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dr Ng is such a funny self-appointed economist to dispense economic wisdom at such primary school level.

Lye Khuen Way said...

Poor us, the ordinary Singaporeans. We are the culprits for all the current job situation, over-crowding, inflation,.

Gosh! What else am I guilty of?
Oh, yes. The low TFR and the high HDB new flats prices, I guess.......

Jim Lee said...

The transglobal elites and their ilk in Spore are benefitting from the present economic system described by Lucky.

The ones vulnerable to the problems highlighted in this article are the lower middle class who see the trappings of the middle class as the promised land. They are stressed out and too tired to think through issues affecting them in the long run after a hard day at work. Fear of rocking the boat and losing what they already possess is another factor which keeps them in the boh pian/tidak apa mould. Sad.

More importantly they do not have someone who will speak up and agitate on their behalf. The Workers Party are too timid and are overly concerned as to how they are percieved by the population.

Our best best is for someone with a social conscience and the moral courage to change things from within the current ruling party. Someone who will really look into a universal health care scheme for the elderly and the poor/terminally sick AT THE EXPENSE of throwing billions at tourist attractions and beautifying our landscape.

Anonymous said...

There is another element:

1. gic/th made huge losses and are sustained by CPF monies.

2. see balding for the above.

3. getting people - Singaporeans off work at 40, and making them small time entrepreneurs stop them from being able to take monies out from CPF at 55/65. Making it safer for th/gic. since minimum sum is so high.

4. it is not sufficient to just see the negative effects.

5. must understand why the govt refuse to see the negative effects.

6. this is because they need you to lose the contingent claim on cpf monies which they need to prop up their losses overseas.

Anonymous said...

Same old arguments and fears tactic. Lim Swee Say would rather be voted out than go for populist policies. Fellow Singaporeans let us fulfill his wish comes GE 2016. Let us make history in Singapore by bringing the total downfall of the PAP. Things are definitely looking grimmer and grimmer by the day.

Anonymous said...

"Let me ask you a simple question has your quality of life improved in the last 10 years when Singapore had the one of highest, if not the highest rate of foreign influx per capita in the world?"
Lucky Tan

I think perhaps what Hen is trying to say is that if your quality of life is bad now, it will be WORSE if you don't have foreign influx. Of course he cannot put it this way lah, unless he is daft.

Just like if you think PAP govt is bad, wait till you have opposition as govt, then you know.

What do you think?

Anonymous said...

It is the choice of the lesser of 2 evils or what is best available.

Best available NOT EQUAL good, let alone best.

MohamedKassim said...

Australian PM Julia Gillard Was spot on when she told immigrants to adapt and integrate and not Australians.Here the burden of a failed immigration policy is passed to Singaporeans with veiled threats and "Bogeyman" of job losses-Really we had enough ministers as we don't buy your stories as we are the receiving end of a high unwanted foreign immigrant influx.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 08:57, don't think, let's just do it! Vote for the opposition! It couldn't be worse because PAP government has already made Singapore worst!

Anonymous said...

Wah lau. Economy goes down for one quarter immediately blame Singaporeans for wanting lower immigration numbers. Economy goes down in the quarter because European crisis lah. Everything also can link to foreign influx. PAP really has no other ways of growing economy other than keep importing people? They should be fired.

SM said...

Think he is referring to HIS quality of life...LOL.

theonion said...

Lucky

Let me ask you a simple question has your quality of life improved in the last 10 years when Singapore had the one of highest, if not the highest rate of foreign influx per capita in the world?

Yes, for most people who I know

Has structural unemployment and job security improved in those years?
Yes, for most go getters, who I come in contact with.

Frankly, whether yes or no is irrelevant to the question of voting which is based on perception of competence of the candidates and the party's performance or lack thereof.

For this emotive issue, if you are affected in a negative manner, we will disagree even if there are a hundred studies prove that there is net increase in nation's wealth as long, income gap persists although individually everyone who has a job is richer.

Ng Eng Hou said...

Well, I'm one of the victims, lost my job at 48, got jobless for one and half years, but get a job that I need to take a drastic pay cut of over 60%. I can say structural unemployment is getting worse and costs of living are soaring even though economic conditions are weakening.

Just feel situation may worsen as European economies languish, forcing more economic refugees to come here!

Anonymous said...

I believe only uneducated S'poreans will buy into such obvious nonsense from the PAP.

ah lian said...

@ Jim Lee 17/7/12 06:33

"Our best best is for someone with a social conscience and the moral courage to change things from within the current ruling party."

Hahaha. Like who? DPM "$1k Flat" Tharman? DPM "What Do You Think" Teo? "JB Cheaper" Khaw? Cocky Hen? Lim Sia Suay? Keechiu Chan? Or maybe Tan Chuan Jin, who thinks we should RESPECT elders by NOT helping them, as Helping = Pity?

Do you think he has "a social conscience and the moral courage to change things from within the current ruling party"?!?!

Anonymous said...

Lucky, I for one do not want to go to that direction. I worry for our children. My kids and many of their friends wanted to migrate as they felt they are being push out.

hualian said...

Thanks to PAP, I lost my job to FT 9 years ago, and have to take up job with one third the pay. Still struggling....

PAP will never get support from displaced, NS-serving Singaporeans like me. Perhaps Ng is telling those Singaporeans who are still unaffected to keep supporting them or else....

Instead of bringing more "FTs", I want the PAP to cut the excessive number of foreigners. I probably won't get back my old job, but at least I will have more space to breathe.

It is as simple as that. Don't you understand Ng Eng Han? Or may be you have other considerations like you are afraid the property market will crash?

Anonymous said...

I have given up hope on the papist Leegime to change for the better. They are basically the same. Their thinking, attitude, their approach are still the same. Lee Kuan Yew has embeded it into the pap DNA. The real change is one without the pap. Simple as that. The sooner Singaporeans wake up to this reality the faster they will get what they have wanted - a better life and a secured future for their children. The papist Leegime has ruled for over 50 years and they have failed Singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

I believe PAP has this 'Book of FAQs' that ALL Pappies need to memorise and regurgitate incessantly - every Pappy says the same thing over and over again even when the facts contradict them.

Anonymous said...

There is a Chinese saying "Lang Xin Gou Fei". He has the "heart of a wolf and the lung of dog".

Anonymous said...

When incentives are distorted, you get surprisingly self-destructive behaviour. Wall Street titans JP Morgan and Barclays are the best examples, one Bob Diamond is finished, another Jamiue Dimon looks like joining him. The painful thing is that the civil masters (aka servants) have so distorted their own bonuses and performance indicators using GDP and profit (for stat boards like Singhealth etc), they are letting their political masters getting hang in the coming elections. Sad but inevitable. When you think that incredibly powerful and politcally connected men like Diamond and Dimon losing their jobs, and still you decide not to change course, then I say good luck, take care in 2016. And politicians who reframe the problem around and blame citizens for the slow growth in 2016, well, you need some basic lessons in Politics 101.

Anonymous said...

> The truth is our economic system has become dependent on this influx for growth. But this type of growth by expanding the workforce is not sustainable

Employing a foreign workforce has its own hidden cost like housing and transportion and other facilities for them. For each foreigner in Singapore, taxpayers are indirectly paying for them especially if the foreigners are not paying any taxes. Does the government know about these hidden costs?

ah lian said...

When you've been told since young (and proven, academically) that you're v talented, but now found yourself falling short of expectations, what do you do?

For some, they strive harder.

For our MIW, to admit any lack -- esp in solving problems created by their own actions -- is NOT an option.

So they can only BLAME US.

Besides, they'd really only followed instructions from the old man. He said: Open Floodgates! And they just opened them.

They're UNWILLING politicians, who'd only condescended to be leaders coz of that measly million-dollar pay. So don't expect them to solve problems. They don't care and don't know how, if the old man don't tell them.

So, is it such a bad thing to vote in the oppo? For those who're unhappy yet worried about "rocking the boat", hey, you'd better rock it now than let the captain throw you into the sea!

He's not just lost his way, like many still hope, but has broken the compass on purpose. And though he's steering into a storm, insists that he's on the ONLY right course. It's just TOO BAD if we got struck by lightning on the way. To who knows where.

Anonymous said...

"...every Pappy says the same thing over and over again even when the facts contradict them.

17/7/12 13:10"

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it.

Josef Goebbels, Master of propaganda.

Anonymous said...

i fully agree. it is always singaporeans fault when something goes wrong because we did not go according to their plans blindly. why make our lives more difficult on 1 hand and to convince us our lives will get worse if we do not follow (worse to worst?)

Anonymous said...

How do you know opposition is worse? You got some power to see meh?

Anonymous said...

Being elected by the people yet churning out bad policies one after another is simply evil. Who actually benefits?

Anonymous said...

Yes man. Cannot think on their own two feet. So die die follow.

Anonymous said...

The only fault is to vote for miw.

Anonymous said...

Sorry hor. I oso no educated. I don have $ to bye bye pap nonsense. I only vote opposition lah.

Anonymous said...

"Frankly, whether yes or no is irrelevant to the question of voting which is based on perception of competence of the candidates and the party's performance or lack thereof."

Yes, it will stay as a perception unless you are being hit yourself or one of your family members is affected. Then it is no longer perception, it's reality on the contrary & a confirmed one.

Just like crisis that proven many long held assumptions very wrong and when you get affected negatively, the reality is going to be so painful many times over than your perception.

If imported labour is so great, then why not keep it all coming non stop. Why the need to control (& at which point ?) & the need to dispense the grand advice.

Loyal Singaporean said...

How will growth continue after the population has reached 8 million on this small overcrowded island?

Anonymous said...

They are now selling Singapore like selling Christmas Island in the past

Anonymous said...

"How will growth continue after the population has reached 8 million on this small overcrowded island?"
Loyal Singaporean 17/7/12 22:49

If 5 million can, 8 million also can lah.

PAP and the 60% who voted for PAP know best.

You think you know best? Then make the 60% vote for you lah. Can or not?

Anonymous said...

Monaco is only 1.98 sq km and has population of 35500.

Singapore is 710 sq km and only 5 million. If based on Monaco standard can have 35500/1.98 x 710 = 12.7 million!

So even if Singapore has 8 million people, still got spare change what, based on Monaco standard.

And the standard of living in Monaco is very high, you know.

If Monaco can, Singapore also can what,some more with the talented million $ ministers that we have.

That's why 60% and the PAP know best.

Anonymous said...

The PAP government works for Singaporeans?
OR
Singaporeans work for the PAP government?

Does your PAP MP (Millionaire in Parliament) represent Singaporean values in parliament?

Does your PAP MP really represent you in parliament?

Anonymous said...

The hard truth is that the PAP is feeling that their million dollars salaries and bonus are not enough.

The PAP wants their million dollars salaries and bonus to raise 10 times in 10 times the speed.

Then, how is PAP going to raise their salaries and bonus?

As PAP salaries and bonus are tied to GDP growth rate, PAP have to raise the GDP growth rate in order to raise their salaries and bonus.

Then how is PAP going to raise GDP growth rate?

PAP uses the simplest and least effort way to raise GDP growth rate by mass importing tsunami of cheap foreigners.

Is this hard truth not crystal clear enough the real reason why PAP wants to flood Singapore with tsunami of cheap foreigners?

Anonymous said...

Not forgetting the pap mp may not even attend parliament. Not there, so represent who or what.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it would be better to channel all these negative energy to working harder, earn as much as possible and get out of this place, just like what most foreign trash are doing. Have an exit plan, for the sake of your children. If you can't beat the FTs, join them.

Anonymous said...

Nobody is against any FT or guest workers if they truly bring something to the table. But if they take away your livelihood and your dignity, then how to strike a balance?

Seems like the only job which is secure against FTs are MPs and Ministers.

Anonymous said...

Let be fair to the government. We are not producing enough to catch up with our economic expansion.

Without FT, Singapore would not be what it is today.

With these in mind, PAP will still be the best party of choice for many singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

"With these in mind, PAP will still be the best party of choice for many singaporeans.
18/7/12 15:45". Unquote

Agree 100%, anyone disagrees, plse prove and show You have better choice!

Anonymous said...

@ theonion

Glad to know you and the people around you are living well and having a better "quality of life".

Nonetheless, many amongst us uses the trains and buses daily as a commute means. It being packed to the current extreme clearly brings down the quality of life for these people.

Many amongst us are not born with a silver spoon with parents who can chip in to our home purchases, we take up heavy loans to build our family. Stress right?

Been to Orchard Road for leisure/shopping lately? If not, been to NTUC/Cold Storage/neighbourhood Shop & Save for groceries. It's so crowded nowadays that shopping is now a stressful event. Quality of life increasing? Seriously?

Not sure if you can emphathize but Singapore will really be a much better place to live in if we all pay some attention to our wellbeing - both physically and mentally, care about each other and collectively seek a "common good" for all Singaporeans. Not just a previleged few.

Besides, branding the foreigner influx as a mere "emotive" issue gets us no where near to addressing this very real and tangible problem of us building an economy overly and unsustainably reliant on population growth and foreigner influx. Let's be constructive - for you, probably first by acknowledging that this as a real problem.

Anonymous said...

NEH is worried about his OWN quality of life. He probably benefited from employing cheap Pinoy nurses in his private practice, and now his pay depends on the levies on FT. What is new from Pappies?