Monday, February 04, 2013

Letter from SBF shows divergent interests of some in the business community...

The 6.9M by 2030 population projection has caused widespread consternation among ordinary Singaporeans. Their lives have been adversely affected in so many ways for the last decade by  the high influx of foreigners. No other developed country has legally allowed such a high influx per capita into their country even when they are blessed with land and natural resources because such approaches have many disadvantages such as causing the income gap to increase as wealth transfer takes place from ordinary workers to businesses, in particular, big businesses. Over the last decade we saw the level of profits as a % of our GDP grow to record levels and while the wages of many workers has been stagnant.

"'Despite total population projected to reach 6.9 million by 2030, Singapore businesses will be impacted by slower workforce growth from 2013 to 2020 at only half of the average growth rate compared with the past three decades.

From 2020 to 2030, workforce growth is projected to decrease even further. This will constrain businesses and limit growth. It will have devastating consequences for many companies.

- Singapore Business Federation (SBF) Statement.

The SBF is now saying even 6.9M people is not enough. Businesses need more to guarantee they thrive. But every where else in the developed world businesses have learned to live with slower rates of population growth - they grow by innovation and using existing resources more efficiently by improving productivity. However, years of liberal labor policies that open the floodgates to cheap foreign labor, has caused our businesses to become highly dependent on the 3rd world for labor. Even the white paper  which is considered extreme by so many is not  enough to satisfy the business community here.

While I'm not one bit surprise, the SBF has again lobbied for its own interests, it tells us the interests of Singapore businesses have become divergent from that of ordinary Singaporeans. They want wages to be as low as possible to increase profits,  and Singaporean workers will only benefit if we have a model of growth that elevates real wages. The PAP govt has already given too much to businesses through years of pro-business policies allowing them to have the lowest taxes in the developed world, lowest protection and benefits for workers among developed countries, easy access to cheap foreign labor, no independent unions etc. We ended up with a large income gap and a 3rd world wages structure that is now causing the ordinary people to turn their backs on the PAP govt.  After pandering to their every demand in the past, the PAP govt now finds that even small tweaks in policies is faced with stiff resistance.

No economy can grow forever, no unsustainable model can keep going without breaking. The longer we kick the can down the road, the more divergent the interests will be and the harder it is to transform and restructure the economy. There are things have to be done now to benefit ordinary Singaporeans otherwise the PAP will face  rising rejection of its system.
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Statement  by SBF on Population White Paper

01 February 2013, The Business Times -[Link]

THE Singapore Business Federation acknowledges the importance of the Population White Paper's projections for the medium to long-term growth of Singapore. A shrinking and ageing workforce amid the backdrop of a stagnant Total Fertility Rate (TRF) will have serious implications for businesses and the economy. It is vital that Singapore achieves consensus and lends support to these important issues.

Despite total population projected to reach 6.9 million by 2030, Singapore businesses will be impacted by slower workforce growth from 2013 to 2020 at only half of the average growth rate compared with the past three decades.

From 2020 to 2030, workforce growth is projected to decrease even further. This will constrain businesses and limit growth. It will have devastating consequences for many companies.

As the number of Singaporeans in Professional, Managerial, Executive and Technical (PMET) jobs increase, there will be a shortage of local non-PMETs.

Many industries cannot be manned by mainly PMETs. For example, retail, food-and-beverage outlets and hotels will continue to need a large number of lower-skilled workers.

Currently, these sectors already cannot attract enough locals. In the future, the situation will be worse. Those establishments which cannot adjust will close. Jobs will be lost. Those who can survive will face tight labour supply and high labour costs. Singaporeans should be prepared for higher costs of such domestic services and lower service quality levels.

Moderate GDP growth of 3 to 4 per cent from 2013 to 2020 hinges on productivity growth of 2 to 3 per cent. There is risk that this growth will not be achievable if productivity cannot be improved from current levels.

Consequently, there is a danger of Singapore descending into a period of weak anaemic growth. This will have repercussions on wages, employment and Singapore's attractiveness as an international business destination.

Singapore's appeal as an efficient and attractive tourist destination will also be compromised. In such a scenario, we can lose our confidence as a dynamic city.

Mr Ho Meng Kit, CEO of SBF, said: "The reduction in workforce growth has very serious consequences for businesses. Some Singaporeans do not realise its impact but are seized with the prospect of an overcrowded island with 6.9 million people. We must explain to Singaporeans that many businesses will be in jeopardy if they cannot adjust to this demographic tsunami that will hit us.

"If businesses go under, jobs will be lost, Singaporeans will be affected. If businesses cannot raise productivity and sustain profits, they cannot afford to pay Singaporeans higher salaries.

"The population projections in the Population White Paper are already tough for companies. It is unthinkable if Singaporeans choose to further limit immigration and the number of foreign workers. This will damage our competitiveness and Singapore will lose its shine. We do not want to see our children working overseas because there are no more good opportunities here."

Providing an SME perspective, Mr Lawrence Leow, chairman of the SBF-led SME Committee, said: "The population paper has painted the harsh realities of Singapore's population statistics and their implications. Unfortunately, it is the SMEs that will be hardest hit.

"SMEs currently employ some 70 per cent of the local workforce. They are more than economic contributors as their sustained presence has (an) impact on the lives of Singaporeans. Many SMEs operate as subcontractors or across labour-dependent service sectors. The shift towards two-thirds of local workforce to PMET jobs and only one-third to non-PMET jobs is unimaginable for many SMEs' business model.

"A lot of SMEs whose operations cannot be moved offshore will be rendered out of business.

"This, in turn, has an even wider implication as many multinational corporations (MNCs) here rely on SMEs for services and as part of their supply chain. The net effect is that many more jobs could be lost. We urge the government to delay further tightening of foreign workers restrictions until there is clear evidence of small businesses succeeding in business restructuring and productivity increment

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Anonymous said...

"The SBF is now saying even 6.9M people is not enough."
Lucky Tan

So these SBF folks will most likely vote PAP.

And I believe these folks, as well as those who think PAP is the best available to be government, are still majority in a GE.

Hence PAP will win again to be government.

Anonymous said...

PAP is part of the rich and elite, and as PAP's salaries and bonuses are pegged to the rich and elite, so it is in the selfish interest of the PAP to propagate the increase of wealth of the rich and elite.

PAP strongly help the rich and elite by opening the floodgate to tsunami of cheap foreigners to work for the rich and elite.

The low cost of the tsunami of cheap foreigners lower the cost of running the businesses.

Lower cost translates to higher profit for the businesses. Higher profit means higher income for the rich and elite.

As income of the rich and elite rise, PAP's salaries and bonuses also rise according to the peg between the PAP and the rich and elite.

It is crystal clear that PAP has this self interest, therefore PAP is so determined to have at least 6.9 million population by 2030.

Anonymous said...

Actually it's good that some businesses go out of business then we don't need more labour. A smaller economy for 4 million people will be great

patriot said...

Anu wonder about the content in the SBF Statement.

Do allow me to cite an analogy; caveat, it may not the most appropriate, however it will be relevant and true to fact.
May I state that a whore out to make money will want as many customers as possible. Whether the customer is a leper, pervert, suffering from sexual and or even Aids will not be of concern. Maybe with money, cure can be obtained.

Politicians and businessmen are like candies and sugar, one MUST COMPLEMENT THE OTHER.
And as everybody knows, they(businessmen/politicians) are the most money loving folks.

It will be much worse IF THE BUSINESS FOLKS ARE MASQUERADIING ARE POLITICIANS WHICH MOST ARE.

POLITICIANS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO SIT ONBOARD ANY COMMERCIAL ENTITY NOR ALLOWRD TO RUN ANY COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

patriot

patriot said...

Like to say that regime and business community like to work like hands in gloves. In that relationship, they thrive well and can ensure both flourish.

patriot

Anonymous said...

These 'employers' are just arguing for their own pockets.

Ask them 'how many foreigners already in these companies?'

All these company owners interested in is to make more money thru cheap foreign labour.

They're breathing thru the same nose as PAP.

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Anonymous said...

Governments are supposed to restrain businesses.

- If there are no restraints, there will be child and slave labor.

- If there are no restraints, there will be no fish left to harvest.

- If there are no restraints, the PMI (air pollution) index will be "crazy bad" or "beyond index".

- If there are no restraints, there will be no forest.

- If there are no restraints, there will be no future for your children.

If your Government does not restrain businesses, you must speak out and take action.

Anonymous said...

Do we have a fascist government?

Fascism is the marriage of government and business to screw the people (labour).

Fascism is a political ideology that places the interests of individual citizens behind the interests of the state.
This form of nationalism was employed by Nazi Germany and Italy under Benito Mussolini and was a main cause for World War II.

SOURCE:
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Anonymous said...

Ho Meng Kit and the SBF is like a baby sucking from the PAP's drug-coated teats - take it away and they scream like a drug addict without its daily dose. Ever heard of Schumpeter? When the businesses cannot even survive on the current absurd wage structure and only pays the world's lowest tax rates, then they deserve to be creatively bankrupted. And let others who can create new businesses take over, the world will not end, instead more productive new ones will get a real chance to create a better economy. I will be the first to start my company if the TLCs/GLCs like NCS (aka AIM contractor), ST, Keppel, DBS go down! Now who has a chance competing against them? Scholars wet behind the ears who never had a day working in the real world are easily threatened by these teat-sucking businessmen; little do they realize the Hongkongers and Chinese are laughing at silliporean bosses as totally naive, there to be suckered by their Asian counterparts! This is really la-la land.

Anonymous said...

Can never understand why you are freaking out about the population numbers. 6.9M or 3M, does that matter alot?

Anonymous said...

The pap has done the impossible - fuck itself.

Anonymous said...

Here's a simple sum:
Import more foreigners = need more housing/infrastructure = need more foreign manual workers to build some more = need more housing and infrastructure = need more foreign workers....ad infinitum...

Yes there's more GDP growth, but does it equal happiness for the ordinary Citizen???

Anonymous said...

Lucky, you comment section is now being abuse. These people are soliciting for their sites. Please do something before genuine readers and commentators become disgusted.

Anonymous said...

He is not the father. He is fathered. Long live party politics. Long live the beast

Anonymous said...

I am confused.

Singapore is not the place for loal manufacturing companies highly dependant on lots of cheap labourt. They should go to Vietnam, China or Malaysia. They should not be here to import labour to be competitive.

For service companies, importing foreign workers is necessary but have to be careful as it is a vicious cycle. Temporary importation to service a larger tourism sector is viable option just like the construction sector traditionally relying on foreign workers.

But to say that we need workers we import pp to increase popultaion is a vicious cycle. They more pp the more service pp you need = more pp = more service pp.
Singaporeans are not against importing labour in sectors that they would not want to work in like the traditional construction sectors.

What they are pissed off is their jobs being taken over by foreigners that may not be even qualified than them and see their wage being surpressed. At the same time cost of living shot up because of this meaningless importation of foreigners.

Why is the whole issue so generalised ? Our government really has no clue what they are talking and thinking about.





Anonymous said...

Yes it may be evil, but having more people is a lesser evil than having less people.

And the more people PAP get, the lesser evil it will be until 7 million is reached. After that it becomes more evil. In economics, it is called the point of diminishing returns.

That's why 7 million is the targeted forecast in order to maximise the returns till 2030.

As long as there is no better alternative to replace the PAP until 2030.



Anonymous said...

/// Why is the whole issue so generalised ? Our government really has no clue what they are talking and thinking about. ///

We are staring at an incompetent government right now.
Do we dare to admit this to ourselves?
Do we dare to do what is necessary to fix this problem in GE 2016.

It's our country.
And it's the citizens' job to fix our own country.

Anonymous said...

Any alternative that can replace PAP may even become just like PAP - to maximise the returns and power.

It's like that one lah.

For instance, if you are poor, you will live and behave like the poor.

But after you become rich, you will live and behave like the rich.

Same thing for political parties lah.

gm . 绿效精神 said...

Despite Singaporeans hope that the country will be free from social ills caused by casino, the government (ONE is only bad) goes ahead with worst case of TWO at a go!

Despite Singaporeans hope that the citizens will be first priority in mind, the government (FIVE are only bad) will continue with worst case of SEVEN millions in the next 18 years!!

And the next unimaginable worst case - the government will eventually venture into the most destructive nuclear energy in foreseeable years to come!!?

Anonymous said...

"Many industries cannot be manned by mainly PMETs" - this statement is very wrong. In most developed countries, the top management has to roll up the sleeves to join the production staff to get things done. THe elite system adored by the ruling party simply just want to create a very huge gap between the rich and the poor just like the emperor and peasant scenario. We have to vote out this type of sick mentality.

cw said...

I think this whole farce is PAP still very much in its old mode of business. Instead of getting various ministers to try to support the position now, what they should be doing is saying that they did not anticipate the strong negative reaction and that they will go back to the drawing board. Even if the position is right, when the majority of people say it is very wrong then there is a need to do a complete review.

Anonymous said...

It's our country.
And it's the citizens' job to fix our own country.


Really meh? Fix what? What exactly can you fix? Instead of worrying about that which has nothing to do with you, you would do better to go home and make babies to help our country!

Anonymous said...

"Fix what? What exactly can you fix?"
Anon 4/2/13 18:20

If you have no money, make money lah.

If you have money, make more money lah.

This one only you can fix, not PAP govt or even WP govt, tio bo?

Make babies got money or not, for now?

Anonymous said...

Be the business community (SBF) to make money.

More population, more money to be made, tio bo?

So don't be daft. Make money, not oppose PAP because PAP help you to make money.

Anonymous said...

/// Really meh? Fix what? What exactly can you fix? ///

We can fix the Pro Alien Traitors by voting Opposition.
We can recruit our family and friends to vote Opposition.

Just convert one PAP voter into an Opposition is good enough.

As Punggol East has shown.
The end of PAP may be a lot nearer than most of us realize.

Anonymous said...

We used to have more tranquil places in Sin until they "improve our life" with money making infrastructure.
For instance, botanical garden used to enjoy lower traffic and hence some peaceful respite was possible then. Yet, BG was very accessible to anyone who really wants to visit. Now, it is just an MRT, linked to more and more housing estates, away. The place has lost its charm and serenity and even some what "abused"( plenty of foreign bodies on day off). There are now "loiterers" too

This is just an example of how Sin has lost its charm.

From a simple highly livable "kampong village", PAPERVERTS have turned Sin into a busy kampong street chicken district.

Anonymous said...

I believe meritocracy has produced idiots and the people are now ruled by idiots.

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans are very obnoxious people. Very very wayang and....very very deluded. Anyone who gives up their bountiful motherland to be part of this overcrowded prison must be desperate or mad.

Anonymous said...

Ahaha..comprain comprain..useless...mrt will one day run into malysia nd your casinos and geylang haut ah..wahahaa

by then...what 7 million ppl?? WAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous said...

Strangled by...MRTs? lol

Anonymous said...

"Brunei is a pint-sized and fabulously wealthy oil-rich sultanate with a population of 398,000 as of 2008."

Smart rulers or stupid? They could have used their wealth to be another Dubai or "improve" the people's lives.

Anonymous said...

Anyway, we have to tell PAP to prepare for the worst. Come GE2016, everyone of sound mind should vote for alternative parties. Do Not ever vote for dead frogs.

Anonymous said...

Bruneians....don't be gay kiang ....for your own good.

Learn from the idiots and not make their mistakes

Anonymous said...

Majority Singaporeans, being kiasu and kiasi, can only hope the PAP will change, because they do not want to change PAP with another P.

So the population will be 6.9 million by 2030. Or maybe more.

This, I am 92% (80/87 x 100) sure.

Anonymous said...

Please don't forget that the largest business owner of Singapore is PAP with its GLC, TH, GIC with vest interest.

Anonymous said...

43% for PAP during by election.

60% for PAP during General Election.

Anonymous said...

When you r bitten by snakes, what do you do?

In any case...lovers try to avoid botanical garden...there are now a lot of cheekopeks in white hiding under palm trees watching your activities...lol

Anonymous said...

43% for PAP during by election.
(They want PAP to change, hopefully)

60% for PAP during General Election.
(They do not want to change PAP, definitely)

Low TK is not daft. He knows himself, PAP, WP and most important, the voters.

But the same cannot be said of the others.

Anonymous said...

So those netizens who keep saying vote PAP out are daft, tio bo?

Anonymous said...

But if they are making lots of money, then they are not daft.

Anonymous said...

Anon@16:54,

"And the more people PAP get, the lesser evil it will be until 7 million is reached. After that it becomes more evil. In economics, it is called the point of diminishing returns."

Good try. But you are way past the point of diminishing returns. Don't believe me? Let's see how many more seats PAP will lose in future contests...

Anonymous said...

There are so many ways to improve productivity. eg eateries in Japan use a coin machine to automate payment by customers instead of hiring a cashier.

Anonymous said...

"Those establishments which cannot adjust will close. Jobs will be lost. Those who can survive will face tight labour supply and high labour costs. Singaporeans should be prepared for higher costs of such domestic services and lower service quality levels."
Companies are expected to open up and close when they cannot compete; that't the dynamic of a capitalist market. Yes, those that survivie will face tight labour supply and high labour costs. Take a look around at countries where businesses face these too and learn from them how to raise productivity and become useful to their market and society.

"Moderate GDP growth of 3 to 4 per cent from 2013 to 2020 hinges on productivity growth of 2 to 3 per cent. There is risk that this growth will not be achievable if productivity cannot be improved from current levels."
Bosses and managers at SMEs: what have you done so far to improve productivity? Nothing it seems except to be very productive in increasing their profits and salaries at the expense of their workers. As a football player said, ""Tactics? The manager's responsible for that."

"In such a scenario, we can lose our confidence as a dynamic city."
Go ahead and lose your confidence; there are plenty of others who have not.

"If businesses cannot raise productivity and sustain profits, they cannot afford to pay Singaporeans higher salaries."
Businesses have sustained profits in the past decade, but Singaporeans' salaries are still cut or have been below inflation levels. On the other hand, the bosses and managers have always been able to afford to pay themselves very well from the higher profits.

"Many SMEs operate as subcontractors or across labour-dependent service sectors."
So? If that's what you do, go ahead and do it. Do it well with good strategies and tactics, pay your workers well so that they can buy your products and services, help to raise productivity instead of whining and waiting for your workers to do it for you. If SMEs find operating as subcontractors or being in labour-dependent service sectors is not good for them, then they should get out of these businesses and do something else.

"The shift towards two-thirds of local workforce to PMET jobs and only one-third to non-PMET jobs is unimaginable for many SMEs' business model."
That's the problem isn't it? The SMEs have no imagination.

"We urge the government to delay further tightening of foreign workers restrictions until there is clear evidence of small businesses succeeding in business restructuring and productivity increment."
And how long will small businesses take to restructure and increase productivity? From the decades so far where so many SMEs have complained and whined, I think they will take a few more decades. Maybe never.

Anonymous said...

Scissor rules. Render the THINGS that ARE Scissor. You bear his IMAGE. Is that a problem sunday ORGANZE gangsterism?

Anonymous said...

Whose image is it on the coin? A loser's image? I didn't say it hor. Someone did

Anonymous said...

that why people say...you look like your father...don't you look like your father?..is it a good thing with the same imprint as your father? ...all your children look like that...coming out of the same factory owned by your father.

very proud right?

Anonymous said...

The temple in white robe pays tribute and serve you know who. Marked for life in prison

hhw said...

Various foreign chambers of commerce and also the SBF have voiced their concers against "tighter curbs on foriegn labour".

Actually all the government have done was to reduce the rate of increase of the the number of foreigners in Singapore. (the previous sentence does not have a typo-error!).
The government is NOT reducing the number foreigners in Singapore.
It is NOT EVEN keeping the number of foreigners in Singapore constant.
All it is doing at the moment is to reduce the rate of increase of foreigners in Singapore.

What Singaporeans want is for Singapore's population to keep steady; with economic growth fueled by productivity improvement.
Foreigners can be let in to replace the short-fall due to our low fertility rate. The net result of this should be that the total population DO NOT GROW!

The population white paper is now being sold as being on a tragectory of lower population growth that the current tragectory.
My goodness! It really is little comfort to know that the white paper proposes a better way that the disaster that is the present TRAGICTORY!

Anonymous said...

The more we vote Opposition.
The harder the slap will be on PAP.

Anonymous said...

They should be honest and admit that they don't need MORE, they want *CHEAP* and *YOUNG* foreign workers.

Anonymous said...

Daddy! Daddy!
I've lost the trust of all Singaporeans!

Daddy! Daddy!
How ah?

Daddy! Daddy!
You mean to say I need the trust of Singaporeans to be a political leader?
But being your son has always been enough in the past.

Daddy! Daddy!
What do you mean by the new normal?
What do you mean by daft no more?

Anonymous said...

Lucky, here is an online article that I think you might like:

The Original sin of Singapore's history, http://qlrs.com/essay.asp?id=993.

Anonymous said...

Why not simply adopt young orphans from some third world countries and raise them as Singaporeans? They will integrate better and assimilate into our culture and society. And true blue Singaporeans will find it easier to accept them. They can be trained to fill up those positions that are required to continue our growth. Absurd?? But if our millionaire ministers can come up with silly ideas, why can't I, a commoner?

Anonymous said...

SBF is like an addict and the foreigners are like opium. If you continue to feed opium to an addict, the addict will become more addicted. It is a vicious cycle. The easiest and cheapest way to help the addict is to stop giving opiumto the addict. At first, the addict may feel difficult but slowly this will improve and he will become better than before.

Anonymous said...

"Why not simply adopt young orphans" - the gahmen are extreme capitalists, they prefer single, mobile, energetic individuals that can come here and immediately churn incomes for them. they will not want to go to the extent of investing and risking the investment just for the so-called "identity".

Anonymous said...

"The more we vote Opposition. The harder the slap will be on PAP." - just because they wear white it does not mean they will not play dirty in GE.

Anonymous said...

It should be called the grey papers instead.

The leaders are poor thinkers. He is number two who take his cue from number one. The rests, practicing target shooting. Very amusing

Anonymous said...

Maybe they should go read the good papers.

You get the core wrong, you are in serious trouble

Anonymous said...

Do we have a sacrifice?

Anonymous said...

" ... just because they wear white it does not mean they will not play dirty in GE. ..."
@ 5/2/13 16:33

Wah!
You mean to say they are playing it fair now?
That they represent Singaporeans now?

Anonymous said...

SBF has never been neutral in it's view. Back in 2011, it openly supported PAP in the general election. It is actually manned by former civil servants.

Anonymous said...

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they insist it grow forever, they go all out to keep it going, this is their pattern always doing thing their wilful way only.
housing bubble already building up, ppl can't afford to lose their jobs.
they afraid the monster they create would finally come out that would prove their incompetency. as to bank can you imagine?

if my guess is right, short term worry is better than long term nightmare. they could moderate the process to achieve less painful result.

Anonymous said...

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No wonder running is more lucrative than a hotel! My sis a retired nurse was admitted to TTSH recently after a fall and her muscles stiffened up. We thought she would be given muscle relaxants and when recovered should return home.

It turned out her bill came to $1500 for a day's stay in a C class ward.

Yes they did give here the relaxants but also a lot of unnecessary tests. Her stay costs $200 but all the other 'tests' add up to $1500! During her stay they kept starving her and as there appeared to be of no necessity to do so we kept asking for the doctor to give her food. They kept saying the doctor was busy. In the end she was given some food by another sister. It was then that we discovered they were preparing her for surgery (without our knowledge!) as they saw something in the X-ray. That would have doubled the charges. Fortunately she took some food and they did not proceed.

Can the hospital take its own decision to operate without consent or knowledge of the family?

After the Susan Lim case, we thought medical care would be more ethical. It looks like our hospitals are there to slaughter you with their bills!

This is the second time we have direct experience at TTSH. Another friend spent over $50k for a month's stay for a skin problem!

What is going on in our world class hospitals???
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Anonymous said...

Earlier policy of stopping at 2 is worrying about feeding and the overpopulation? That time birth control were not widely practice and many have not much educations.

As at that time the populations is around 2 millions. Now the old was blamed and excuses to import more to support them as they had earlier contributed to Singapore success?

Now the population 5.3m, not enough babies, what was the factors caused not enough babies, is it job security or cost of living?

The new citizen they are cheaper? The question is were they add in to more problem to solve if they don’t born enough babies, if Singapore reach 7 millions.

And when the new citizens grow old, importing more people to support them? Singapore is a small island and had no resources? What is the negative effects?

Why well developed countries don’t use this methods? Is it more difficult to feed a population of 7 millions then the population of 2 millions?

Anonymous said...

Definition of a Traitor
==========================
One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust (e.g. our National Pledge).

VOTE OUT THE TRAITORS in GE 2016.

Anonymous said...

Party power is losing luster. It is difficult to get people to agree with you. Relying on an exceptional leader or leadership to lead is a very dangerous option or proposition.

Only the meek will inherit the earth.

Time to be born again.

Anonymous said...

Meek shall inherit the earth
Fools shall inherit earthworms

Anonymous said...

Lucky

Enjoyed your article and I would like to add one simple detail which has not been addressed. SBK claims that controlling the number of foriegn workers will be disastrous. You might have also noted that no where in their paper do they mention the cost of labour. The reality is most of this businesses would face disaster if they do not have access to "cheap labour" however this has been conveniently classified as "foriegn labour". I tell you what the SBF wants "foriegn labour" then lets give it to them. However the foriegn worker tax should be made higher so that it would be more expansive to hire foriegn labour than locals. Then let us see if these businesses need more "foreign talent" or not. The revenue collected from these tax should be specifically set aside for social service.

Anonymous said...

Yes we need foreign talents. And lots of them.

Problem is we cannot control the quality of these talents.

End up many of these foreign talents are doing jobs that many Singaporeans can do.

And because they are cheaper although not better or may even be worse.

And you notice for some jobs eg in IT, there are huge numbers of them from certain countries. Simply because these "talents" are very readily available and in large numbers too.

And unfortunately, Singapore may not be their first choice to work in for the better quality ones.

That's why it may be a tragedy if we go for 7 million population.

Most likely we end up with quantity rather than quality.




Anonymous said...

For Singapore to survive, we may even have to sacrifice quality for quantity.

Of course, just like NS, the majority of Singaporeans will have to make this sacrifice lah.

Anonymous said...

No choice, because quality of foreign talent is in God's hand, we cannot control. Not PAP and also not opposition.

But quantity, we (or rather the PAP govt) can control, like 7 million.

That's why WP say 6 million.

Anonymous said...

I say no increase but I got no power, just like other netizens, so no use.

Anonymous said...

Who ask you build like that? We you slave ah? You ask us lay bricks we lay ah? Now you say, no straws, go hater straw snd make bricks build build build, we build ah?

You think we daft ah?

Anonymous said...

Ask us give babies, we give ah? Ask us work, we work ah? Ask us go jump fifty storeys, you jump or not?

FU

Anonymous said...

To add on to what Anonymous 6/2/13 11:06 has written:

I think that the foreign worker tax/levy should be set at the equivalent of employer-portion of CPF payable to a local worker.

In this way, we can level the employment field between local and foreigner.

I am sure Singapore got talent to compete fairly.

Anonymous said...

Maybe next they will force your women to warm beds for a living off you don't like the idea of increasing the number of foreign workers?

Anonymous said...

WP idea of raising wages to entice singaporeans back to work is a brilliant plan.

How much more they gonna pay these people? Maybe 15K a month?

Anonymous said...

Actually, problem can be easily solved.

Sinkadafties need to just line the street and wait for the business bosses to one by one sashay their glorified butt for you to plant a very wet kiss on

They happy, you also happy

Anonymous said...

/// How much more they gonna pay these people? Maybe 15K a month? ///

Well, let's use PAP MPs as a benchmark.
How much to get those useless bench-warmers to do any real work besides rubber-stamping the White Paper?

So $15K/month is a bargain compared to PAP MPs and PAP Ministers.

Anonymous said...

Guess these are all part of PAP strategy. if they cannot convincce you , they threaten you directly or indirectly. Think about it, all articles MSM published need to go through "censor" board. So why now and not early when the paper was released?

Anonymous said...

You want real work? Go wash smelly public toilets every day for 1k a month oh wait... Let's give them $200 more so they will be forever grateful and be your sanitory officer(wow... with title some more) till their dying days?

Anonymous said...

these useless MPs all don't know the meaning of fuck you

one day, the people will educate them

Anonymous said...

Get Singaporeans back to work? Why don't we get you off work(not even work) and stop paying you millions or whatever you are worth for spitting sliva?

Anonymous said...

I mean...Sssssssssaliva

Anonymous said...

Just let these SBFs go busts. They are already not employing locals for a long time so why even need them to be around for the future. Just eliminate these bunch of people from spore, our highly intelligent and very well paid gov will know how to get high GDP without these bunch of leechers. If they failed, we can also eliminate them as well and get a better bunch of gov to manage this small country.

Anonymous said...

How many Millionaire Ministers do we have in the Prime Minister's Orifice?

Anybody know what they are doing to earn their pay?

Raymond Lim?
Lim Swee Say?
Wong Kan Seng?

Anonymous said...

Here's my advise to the SBF.

The govt, using taxpayers money will spend S$2B to improve productivity with stretch goal of 2-3%.

If you as a local SME (ie singaporeans companies) who even refused to hire local Singaporeans for your businesses, then do us ALL a favor. Just take your business and move to the cheaper countries where you can hire local workers by the cheap load. In fact, we urge you to be very "choosy"...you have that choice too. So stop blaming it on us local being choosy. The locals are merely saying - we don't want to be exploited - enough is enough.

So go touch your conscience..do the right thing for yourself/your company and for us too. That way, at least workers from both sides will have dignity and are happy.

Of course, I also wish that you will enjoy your comfort in '3rd world' country and have your cake and eat too.

Anonymous said...

It is to buy votes. New immigrants will vote for who?

I have my take. What about you?

Anonymous said...

If you believe in the cow...invest ahead of demand, you are a fool because...basically, he is pushing up the population number, the true intend

So his please this please that to oppo is basically a wry mock with a hidden agenda.

With more homes flooding the market, the population must rise to keep prices stable or it will plunge.

Either way, the rising number is FORCED on Singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

useless MPS. why do we pay them poison to serve us?

we need a radical change to see real changes that truly defeat any motion that rob and make slaves of our lessen brethren

Anonymous said...

Joke...new citizens renouncing citizenship.

Reality check - even a dessert is better than a city ruled by people who tried to live and be like rich angmohs( that's why you send your children to western universities mah) but no where near them

Pui!

Anonymous said...

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO IS RUNNING SBF?

Everyone is wondering what business does SBF has to interfere in the local politics, threatening its people and taking pot shots at opposition party. Ah...until you read the profile of the CEO who used to /probably still is sleeping with the governing elites.!!!!

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Who is SBF’s CEO, Ho Meng Kit?

COL (NS) Ho Meng Kit was appointed SBF’s CEO on 8 Apr 2011. Before this, he was the Deputy Secretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He opted for early retirement from the Civil Service to join SBF.

He held a variety of senior policy and executive positions including four years as Principal Private Secretary to then Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew. He was Chief Executive of the Singapore Broadcasting Authority and Land Transport Authority where he worked collaboratively with Singapore’s media, transport and construction industries. He was also the Managing Director of the Economic Development Board and a Deputy Secretary in MTI.

COL (NS) Ho completed his ‘A’ level at RI and was awarded the prestigious SAF overseas scholarship in 1975. He has a degree in Engineering from Cambridge University, United Kingdom.

Anonymous said...

Q: Will he send in the army in the event of a freak election result?
A: The army has already been sent in many years ago.

Q: How many generals and admirals are PAP MPs?
Q: SMRT. Has the army been sent in yet?
Q: NOL. Has the general been sent in yet?

Anonymous said...

If they had foresight, would sin be in the present state? You see folks, meritocracy is the cause of the problem. You dont see it because you are daft and blind.



Anonymous said...

If don't choose the SAF generals and colonels, then choose who?

Choose WP? But they are not ready what!



Anonymous said...

None of them is the way, the truth and the life.

Try harder

Anonymous said...

Majority Sinkies will choose the best available party, which is the PAP, as government.

PAP as government will then choose the best available foreign talents to make up the 7 million population in 2030.

PAP good? No, it's the best available. Because Sinkies need a government.

Foreign talents good? No, it's the best available. Because Sinkies need them.

Anonymous said...

One eye jack good? No, but it's the best available among the blind.

Anonymous said...

To the best, it is the best. The problem is the best.

You build empire state building , now you want people to sustain empire state building?

Build towards lightning is asking lightning to strike, is it like that say?

Anonymous said...

You are all very proud of your grades and achievements, is it not? You derive your best from the best, is it not? The more you head towards excellence, the more you dig a grave for yourself. Why the heavens like that?

I not the boss, ask your boss lah

Anonymous said...

Well, go fuck with your boss lah, see what happens. He may sue you lol

Anonymous said...

From the media to business to politics, you have the best fingers in all the assholes. Tell me, your hands smelly or not? Tell me your, your brains got mental case or not?

Anonymous said...

Everyone of the these best nuts, even the oppies, are swimming in money. Tell me, how to change?

Anonymous said...

The joke is, you pay tons to consult the best, aren't you a joke?

You even sent your best to be consulted, funny or not?

Anonymous said...

so called clean up the house...more evil now occupies it

Anonymous said...

if theycan sue... they will sue.. and even more. . ..wicked men few can tell

Anonymous said...

what's wrong with you, why are you talking to yourself from am to pm like you've got nothing to do? you're a bore.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...so called clean up the house...more evil now occupies it7/2/13 10:42

Evil men are charming like snakes, don't you think so?

Anonymous said...

i think they idiots..who think highly of themselves... more than evil....evil close second though

The said...

/// The SBF is now saying even 6.9M people is not enough. ///

Ho Meng Kit was Principal Private Secretary to Lee Kuan Yew.

Anonymous said...

The spokesman of SBF is victor tay, he is the grassroot leader of PAP. He appears everywhere PAP was and also in the nationconversation. By associating himself to the ruling party, he has more to gain than lose. Whatever he said or did, leaves us wondering if this guy is even objective in his thinking or pure irresponsible and greedy for more at the expense of us Singaporeans. You can't can him for war, if we are invaded. These are the core supporters of PAP, who have long ago lost their Singapore soul.

patriot said...

The Answer given to MP Denise Phua by Josephine Teo with regards the Certificate Of Entitlement(COE) for Vehicle, was so lame and stupid, she(J Teo) deserves to be sacked.

Can the Authority allow anyone balloted with COE to sell and or transfer it without been detected? Yes, if the Authority is asleep or could not be bothered with the (unlawful)transation. How else can one transfer it(COE) without getting detected and punished.

Is Josephine Teo qualified to provide answer to question she was unable to provide satisfactory answer?

patriot

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Fascism is the marriage of government and business to screw the people (labour).