Sunday, February 17, 2013

Protest at Hong Lim Park 16 Feb 2013

Since this blog started, it has tracked most of the protests held at Hong Lim Park. I  have always wondered how far Singaporeans have to be "pushed" before they start to protest.  Yesterday thousands of Singaporeans braved the rain to participate in a protest against the White Paper.

The passing of the White Paper has hit a raw nerve among ordinary Singaporeans. Speaking to a number of protesters yesterday, I sensed this "enough is enough", "this was shafted down our throats" feeling of frustration among the protesters.

The speeches at the protest touched on the need to restructure our economy, to preserve our identity and to address the real problems faced by Singaporeans. While many of the views are similar to what has been expressed by the opposition in parliament and numerous bloggers on the Internet, the interactive response from the large crowd gives us a feel of how strongly they   oppose various parts of the White Paper.


By now the White Paper has been largely discredited with its numerous flaws and unsubstantiated claims that increasing the population will lead to higher quality of life and better job opportunities for Singaporeans. Ordinary Singaporeans now have  a good understanding of the outcomes of PAP's immigration policies of the last 15 years after their first hand experience of the net result of these policies. They are not just opposing the White Paper but what the PAP has done for the last decade. Many of the deleterious effects of past policies such widening income gap, low wages, low productivity, rising cost of living, middle class squeeze and declining quality of life are now better understood by ordinary Singaporeans. For this reason, Singaporeans do not want the govt to along the same path of growing the economy by importing people. PAP's policies, if anything looks like it is built on a fallacy that govt needs only to do what businesses want to benefit ordinary citizens - trickle down economics does not work when you have a large income gap and it is never going to work in a country with the 2nd highest (sometimes highest) income gap among developed countries...where the benefits of growth goes to a small number at the top and the negative effects spread to everyone in society.

WP's Low Thia Khiang said in parliament that the proposal in the White Paper will send our country on a "path of no return". If we go along this path, foreigners will dominate a larger segment of our economy and society displacing Singaporeans. The dependence on foreigners will keep growing and at some point we will not be able to turn back, we will not have enough control of our economy to shape the future for our children and our grandchildren.

"Lets not forget the economy exists to serve the people not the people the economy"
- Speaker Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss

.The fear of permanent displacement far exceeds the fear of a temporary slowdown that might have occur if we choose to restructure the economy.  The PAP has lost precious time since GE2011 to get us back on the right path. It now tells us that it wants to double down on policies that have failed to deliver a better quality of life for Singaporeans. It is no surprise that Singaporeans are enraged by the White Paper.

The White Paper has more or less killed the fledgling National Conversation.  What is the point of a conversation when something so major is pushed through parliament and endorsed with so little consultation with the public.

92 comments:

en matters gm . 绿效精神 said...

Singaporeans need to be more responsive (than this black event) and be more self-reliant on ourselves (less foreign maids/ cleaners/ ...)?

Only with the right mentality will we be able to reach the point where Singapore can really rely less and less on foreigner again, ideally less than 25% ...

Anonymous said...

The drumming up of the number is mainly for growth and for pride. You can't be a "vibrant", sexiciting and beautiful city with wrinkled faces on wheel chairs dominating orchard road or the CBD, can you?
And nobody build skyscrapers for the old to parachute from the top of the building - jump without parachute maybe a possibility.
With more tall buildings all over the island, you pray lifts wont fail because they are very high and expensive to maintain.

Anonymous said...

The PAP had lost it moral compass.
The PAP had lost it moral map.
The PAP had lost it conscience.

So the PAP only know how to provide benefit to the business community to open the floodgate to tsunami of cheap foreigners to be exploited by the business bosses.

As a result, cheap foreigners replace Singapore Citizens jobs
and depress Singapore Citizens salaries for those lucky one who are still employed.

Anonymous said...

What pride can one have if citizens start emigrating en masse? You can't be a "vibrant", sexiciting and beautiful city with with a hollowed out core, can you?

Anonymous said...

(10:37)You can if it is an INC.

Anonymous said...

Think Dubai but is that what we want?

Anonymous said...

Lucky, could you write something to reassure my kiasi swing voter friends that a chance in government will not result in massive job losses and economic collapse? Can you also write something to convince them that current batch of opposition candidates are good enough to stand in parliament? I believe they are the key to whether a change in government can happen come 2016. They are very angry with PAP, but would vote for PAP as they are very afraid of the unknown when new government take over. You need to write something which I can show to them, so that they can change their mind to give opposition a chance. Do you part and I will do mine, to convince them. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

An INC is always at the mercy of the economy. And the economy is not a good taskmaster but unfortunately, your politics are designed to serve your taskmasters

Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter who take over, still die

Anonymous said...

So much money in our reserves is useless unless it is used to benefit all Singaporeans.

It is same as looking at your CPF statement and see so much money ther but cannot touch.

Anonymous said...

I think free education will encourage more couple to procreate, the main worry for couple is education which is costly in Singapore. Some advanced countries has free education until they graduate?

This could encourage lots of couple to procreate, even older one?

Import people can’t solve low fertility problem, it will create a vicious cycle and need to import more and more people? Singapore is an island there is finite space?

Anonymous said...

In Punggol BE 2013, they have unexpectedly voted in Ah Lian, something unthinkable in the past.

And now Hong Lim rally unexpectedly attracted thousands, despite the rain, also unthinkable in the past. Because previously in 2010, Gilbert Goh could only attracted less than 50 to his Hong Lim rally.

So with these two events, I am now starting to believe that PAP will be voted out in GE 2016, even if opposition is not ready.

Because even with instability as a result, I think many ordinary Sinkies realise there is nothing more to lose than what has already been lost for them.



Anonymous said...

"So with these two events, I am now starting to believe that PAP will be voted out in GE 2016, even if opposition is not ready."
Anon 17/2/13 11:15

Exactly. If I were PAP, I am also starting to worry now. Better start planning my own emigration.

Anonymous said...

Watershed election in 2011. It will be bloodshed election comes 2016. PAP to go ASAP. Long live Singaporeans (born and bred) for Singapore.

Anonymous said...

Huat Ah. Up up up. Huat Ah!

Anonymous said...

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/asia-pacific/2013/02/2013216151756603968.html

The most powerful video clip is the part when Singaporeans chant "We want change..we want change".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W59jc02PhmA

Anonymous said...

Anon above:
Think Dubai but is that what we want?

We are very different from Dubai. Dubai citizens get free housing and tons of other benefits.
We just pay and pay and pay.
We are far worse than Dubai.

Anonymous said...

From BBC : -
//Saturday's protest came as news emerged that Singapore's first prime minister, 89-year-old Lee Kuan Yew, has been taken to hospital with a brain-related blockage.//

Funny and ironic isn't it?

Even LKY's brain "choose" to have a selective blocking" of the protest news on the same day. Like what Alex Au said, this will go down as another "selective hearing" of the PAP who will view this as another 0.1% of the vocal noisy minority!

Protest harder, Singapore, come 2016 with your vote!

Anonymous said...

They have oil, you have brains mah, correct or not?

Anonymous said...

新加坡人好样的

Anonymous said...

Wow, Sinkies are really angry and frustrated.

The damage has been done, maybe irreversible.

PAP jialat liow. Whoever take over PAP maybe lagi jialat, cannot repair damage.

Anonymous said...

I think PM Lee has done a good job in teaching Singaporeans to stop depending on PAP for leadership and a good life.
He has done a great job in uniting Singaporeans as we can see in Hong Lim Park.

PAP seemingly looks rather bankrupt of new ideas and policies.
Same old, same old.
Just read an LKY book and you can forsee PAP's GE 2016 election manifesto.

We should reward PM Lee by not contesting in his AMK GRC.
Reward PAP with more good years of his leadership.

Anonymous said...

The pap is as good as dead. Long live the people of Singapore. Finally Singaporeans have awakened.

Anonymous said...

Huat Ah. Up Up Up.

Middle Finger to PAP said...

http://forums.asiaone.com/showthread.php?t=58753#1

Fir$t World Graffiti in Singapore finally here!

I love the art and dynamism more than ever!

Singaporeans should demand their Govt give them more inches of free-speech spaces/corner relative to the increase of the population size..don't you think?

Plucky Tam said...

Pro lan lah. You useless sinkies were merely congregating within the demarcations dictated by the PAPzis. Go to First World countries like Sweden or Germany if you want to see what true protesting is about. Face the reality lah. You Sinkies are happy with the white and blue PAP. How you sneered at the SDP when they took to the streets to fight for your rights. Pathetic.

"I think we have a competent government." - Low Thia Khiang

Anonymous said...

You see anyone protests against vibrancy? You see anyone protests against the proud parade of scholars every year? You see anyone close down churches?

Business as usual lah

Lye Khuen Way said...

Feb 16th will be remembered along with Feb 15th in Singapore.

The PAP must be still he in denial if this historic turnout did not trigger more soul-searching after the two By-Elections.

What do I think ? They must still be blissfully confident that the hearlanders are still solidly behind them. They will dismissed the no small success of the organiser and determinations of those who braved the drizzle as the more noisier minority.

I was there and as I expressed more than once already, sang the Majulah Singapura with such emotion that I had misty eyes. Swear, it had never happened before.
Yes, I was also in that famous 60's National Day Parade that literally drenched All participants. Was only a National Cadet Corp member then.

Just as we did 4 decades ago, we stood our ground. OK, the drizzle was not comparable. But last evening event was totally voluntary. No uniform groups.

We had enough and stood up to be counted.

Anonymous said...

The number is only a fraction of all the opposition votes garnered. Please.

Nevertheless, it is still a little commotion

Plucky Tam said...

"Feb 16th will be remembered along with Feb 15th in Singapore."

Bollocks. What happened on Feb 16th? Hsien Loon announced that he would reduce his wages by 80% to First World levels? The government introduced a minimum wage? The government abandoned its plans to increase the population to 6.9 million? Nothing of the sort happened. We're just getting more of the same. Singaporeans, by and large, are satisfied with the policies of the white and blue PAP. Don't expect any seismic changes for the next 50 years. You're more likely to enjoy a Swiss standard of living by emigrating than staying put in Kuan Yew's fiefdom.

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans, especially the young Singaporeans, can see through many things. For once, it is crystal clear that the recent National Conversation did not mention nor whisper a single word about the White Paper. Why a major life-irreversible policy as a 7 million population on a tiny island NOT be discussed nor deserved mentioned during the National Conversation when this is a major policy with serious implications and affects all Singaporeans including whether Singaporean males want to serve NS to protect 50% foreigners?

One word. It was a National CONversation. I wonder how many more wayang shows is our government going to hold? They must have started to normalise their behaviour and wayang because they have not been held accountable for their pretences for more than 2 decades now.

Anonymous said...

Leaders lead, followers follow. Now let's pray. Amen

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans are being short-changed by the PAP and they still think that they are having it good in Paradise Island. This is the best portions of propaganda. To make a society and people believe that they are having it good. To have a people believe that they are rich by making them so busy with their work that they have no time to spend their money and they feel they are rich. Singaporeans as a society need to take a hard look at what kind of life they want as a society. Do they want more pressure from long hours and overcrowdedness? They have to decide if it's OK to be impoverish in their old age as they have to pay for a 30 year loan. Singaporeans take things too easily. The younger Singaporeans are scewed and they don't fully realise it at all till they get married, buy a flat and then they will realise how fuck up Singapore policies are to its people. My nephew is studying japanese as she wants to move out from singapore. Japan is the lesser of two evils. Everybody wants to go to Australia, Canada and NZ these days. Today, it's not about survival anymore. It's more about quality survival too. It's about a lifestyle and the Singapore lifestyle is a overly stressed one with eternal boredom, controlling bosses, NS and reservist conscription and struggling cost of living to pay for a flat. What kind of lives are singaporean living?

Anonymous said...

Smart move. Japan is a great place to retire, if you have the means

Anonymous said...

There is a portion of singaporeans who were displaced by the FT policy but were not captured in the statistics becos they put themselves as consultants, agents or brokers due to social pressures.
With out the right statistics it is ambiguous to say there is little little unemployment or disruptions with the FT policy. The best way to understand the figures is to compare the moving average annual tax earnings over a certain period. When a sharp decrease in pay is evident, that is likely the new unemployed "worker".

Also, an engineer could be displaced when he becomes a taxi driver or technician in his next job due to cheaper younger foreign applicants on the market, but the statistics will still show that ALL IS WELL.

We should have as many data points as possible to prove there is no displacements and unemployed "workers" for if everything is rosy and fine, why are there so much unhappiness instead of joy?

Anonymous said...

I believe in a homogenous society. Not a rojak and demonic society

Anonymous said...

This show Singaporean are Not Afraid of Lightning standing in the rain Reject white paper 6.9millions!
Quick Motion passed on White Paper with Full of Shit!
Sucker!

Lye Khuen Way said...

To "Plucky Tam @1302 ",

Just curious. Were you present?

My guess : no. Period.

Anyway, Have a Joyous, Healthy Lunar New Year!

Anonymous said...

Sadly I think there is no chance the PAP will turn around their raise-the-GDP-at-all-cost policy. With greatsadness, I have to say I proudly served NS 20+ years ago, but I will migrate with family soon. My 3 yr old son will not serve NS in 15 years - what's the point of NS when half the people aren't citizens or were born here?

Anonymous said...

One good thing that came out of this is that I finally manage to convince a die hard sinkie that all is not well and that pap will screw him and his children so finally he was awaken

Anonymous said...

If you are a Chinese, please go back to china and dont be a bastard in some foreign land

And fuck the church

Anonymous said...

I love the church...got children...happy happy

Veritas said...

Think Dubai but is that what we want?

If PAP can treat us as good as the greedy oil-sheikh has treated the the Dubai-ese, I would mind all these FT. But the fact, is even wicked oil sheikh treats its people far better.

There is nothing we can compared with Dubai. Dubai citizen get

1) Free land for their landed property in the posh-est district.

2) Free education.

3) Free healthcare.

4) garantee well pay civil service job for graduates

5) US$19,000 payment toward wedding costs.

6) Subsidize ultilities

And many others.....etc. And also Dubai people

1) No COE

2) No GST

3) In Dubai, foreigners are damn scare of locals. The local Mullahs would call Jihads against ungrateful infidels if they dare play racism. In Singapore, we are shit on by FT Indians. They fired or make Singaporeans leave on their own once they become managers. Then they proceed to hire even the worst idiots from their shit village in India.

PAP Cheers.

Anonymous said...

If you are an indian, go back to India. They all smell nice there

Anonymous said...

"3) In Dubai, foreigners are damn scare of locals. The local Mullahs would call Jihads against ungrateful infidels if they dare play racism. In Singapore, we are shit on by FT Indians. They fired or make Singaporeans leave on their own once they become managers. Then they proceed to hire even the worst idiots from their shit village in India."

Power to the allahs. Who ask outsiders to walk in there?

Anonymous said...

@ Plucky Tam.
Why you keep saying white & blue PAP?

Is the white PAP losing legitimacy?
So you want to co-op WP into the PAP family of $2 companies to give a pretend coat of respectability?

Why not you say white WP and blue WP?

Anonymous said...

@ Plucky Tam

Why you keep quoting:
"I think we have a competent government." - Low Thia Khiang

Why not you quote LKY or some other PAP Leeders?
You need Low Thia Khng to give you legitimacy is it?

Political bankruptcy, thy name is Plucky Tam

Anonymous said...

They are controlling more than 60% of the businesses in Singapore on everywhere including housing, transports, Telco, super market, etc. They need more people to expend their businesses to purchase their goods and also need more low pay workers to work for them to reduce cost.

They need more money to feed themselves and their senior officers. This is done by the expense of the citizens live because still got 60% to support them.

Anonymous said...

Correct. A vibrant society. Any objection to high(your) salary?

No right? :)

Anonymous said...

You ask the people...you want money or not? ...How they vote?

You stupid or what?

Plucky Tam said...

"Why not you say white WP and blue WP?"

In all honesty, I really can't tell them apart. Blue PAP or white WP, what's the difference?

Anonymous said...

Some said small 500sqft flat is "almost inhumane" for living.
How is 6.9millions in Red Dot livable?

Anonymous said...

You ever watch ang moh rent it of list it program on tv? I watched one episode....when they go shopping for house....they look at one semi D...very common here...and moaned...not for humans to live,.....and their home is slightly bigger only...lol

Your flats are fit for rats...lol

Anonymous said...

seriously...these dogs toilets are even bigger than your living rooms haaaaa

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You ask the people...you want money or not? ...How they vote?

You stupid or what?

17/2/13 14:41

That's why which party, and what colors, doesn't matter, correct say or not?

Anonymous said...

"Bollocks. What happened on Feb 16th"

Pluck Tam chop off his lan lah! Tio bo?

Anonymous said...

You say the breed...stupid or not lah. All that education...for fiak?

Anonymous said...

Huh? Education is for fuck what

Anonymous said...

@Plucky Tam
/// In all honesty, I really can't tell them apart. Blue PAP or white WP, what's the difference? ///

White WP/PAP = PM Lee Hsien Loong
Blue WP/PAP = PM Low Thia Khng

That's the difference.

Minghui Kuok said...

And therein lies the hidden political crisis. While I cannot be sure whether the Opp coalition is capable of creating an effective 1/3 counter balance, the actual crisis has now not only affected the people, but above all the Gov itself.

In fact, while I do agree with the notion of calibrating the foreign labour, I do not really agree with the notion of building in advance overall wise given the kind of tight situation right now.

Telling the people that the problem lies in the phrasing might buy some understanding from some (including yours truly), but definitely not the majority.

The 2016 GE will definitely be a far more of an acid litmus test and I suspect the only way for the Gov to prevent a far worse off GE showing by then is to step up all efforts in trying to placate the public anger.

Forget whatever "populist approach" being used as an excuse because everything is now nearing a damned either way scenario. I suspect the next REACH dialogue session may be my final one. :(

Plucky Tam said...

"You ever watch ang moh rent it of list it program on tv? I watched one episode....when they go shopping for house....they look at one semi D...very common here...and moaned...not for humans to live,.....and their home is slightly bigger only...lol

Your flats are fit for rats...lol"

Couldn't agree more. And more than 80% of Sinkies live in these rat dwellings. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone owns a car. Car ownership rate is among the lowest in the world.

"I think we have a competent government." - Low Thia Khiang

Anonymous said...

Poor Plucky Tam lives in the sewers, without his lan!

Still he deserve a tight slap from Low Thia Kiang. Tio bo?

Anonymous said...

I rather have a crowded and vibrant Singapore in 2030 than an voidless and sleepy singapore, even than so what if we are the majority in 2030? Since WP is not ready to take over, neither am i ready for a freak result. As much as i hate the 6.9, i am not ready for change. Seeing how WP secure 55% send shiver down my spine and make me more determine to vote for the ruling party.

We already lost George Yeo and Lee Bee Hwa. MM ans SM also stepped down. Is this what sinkies want?

BTW, i voted for opp last GE and i regretted some how. We have caused too much political damage by voting opp and things are now getting out of hand like the unprecented protest at hong lim. This is not the Singapore i want.

A middle income concerned sinkie



BTW, im

Anonymous said...

/// We already lost George Yeo and Lee Bee Hwa. MM ans SM also stepped down. Is this what sinkies want? ///

Yes!
Yes!
A thousand times yes!
(PS: Any good news from hospital yet?)

Grow up.
Lee Hsien Loong is not your father.
PAP is not your extended family.

Anonymous said...

/// We have caused too much political damage by voting opp and things are now getting out of hand like the unprecented protest at hong lim. ///
ANON: 17/2/13 16:32

It's not WE who caused the damage.
It's PAP who caused the damage.

WE didn't fail PAP.
PAP failed us.

We didn't give up on PAP.
PAP gave up on us and imported foreigners by the millions.

We didn't ask for millions in salary.
PAP asked for millions in salary.

PAP controls Singapore and Singaporeans.
How can we be responsible for all the damage?

You must be a PAP affiliated troll.
PAP ideology is always to blame Singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

"I rather have a crowded and vibrant Singapore in 2030 than an voidless and sleepy singapore"

Amen. Praise the Lord$

Anonymous said...

Really sold by the PaPpies - crowded implies vibrant

Anonymous said...

It is a three pronged attack. You lost it in school.

Schooled by idiots

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxm-bYfaInc

Anonymous said...

Actually there are many advantages in having a slower growth model and having population stable at current state. People will have more time to date, setup family, and have kids. All can focus more on family and improving basic infrastruture and improving wages and stable housing prices. Unfortunately we are dealing with a ruling party that is pro alien and anti singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

I suggest we all unite and boycott all the shops that employed foreign workers. Unity is strength.

Anonymous said...

Enough is enough. PAP"s time is up.

If the daft 60.1% don't join us the I hope they bear the full brunt of PAP's policies.

Anonymous said...

Enough is enough. PAP"s time is up.

If the daft 60.1% don't join us the I hope they bear the full brunt of PAP's policies.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxm-bYfaInc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Y97mZrqcw

Anonymous said...

PM Lee is truly a unifying national political figure!
Uniting all Singaporeans under a unifying theme.

Anonymous said...

There is no greater unifying sound than the sound of cash register

Anonymous said...

What the fuck did LHL have to apologise for if this is going to be the outcome ?

What a useless PM that we have been conned into having just because he is the son of LKY!!!!

Anonymous said...

The PAP MPs did not even bother to consult their consituents and then voted for the White Toilet Paper!!!

Why should we even bother voting for them in the next GE ?

PAP by now must be the most hated political party in Singapore and LHL the most incompetent useless good-for-nothing PM that we have never bargained for.

Anonymous said...

The fish rots from the head!

Veritas said...

Indian want preferential treatment in Singapore, Singaporeans can eat shit

The step has irked India as the new law does not give India a preferential treatment incorporated in the Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement (CECA) between the two countries, operational since 2005. This stance by the Singapore Government is expected to affect Indians working as middle-level managers, executives and technicians.

Speculations are rife that India might take up the issue with World Trade Organization’s (WTO) dispute settlement body. However, according to Singapore such a decision was imperative in the interest of the natives as the share of the foreign workforce is rising very rapidly.

....

According to Indian officials involved in the negotiations, this is a violation of the services trade agreement under CECA. This will also adversely affect Indians who are working there as it might lead to job losses, especially for the middle level workers.


http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/govt-decries-ceca-violation-by-singapore-113021700123_1.html

The CEFA between SG and India is a shot in our own foot. PAP sold us out so much that, today, any claims to our due rights will incur the resentment of shit Indian racist.

Few years down the road, Indians will think that it is entitlement that our sons and daughter become shit collector and prostitute just like what they did to their own dalits.

Then any protest from the native Singaporean will be treated as Singaporean Nazi.

Before FT Indians are racist, now they are Nazi. They are interfering with internal affairs of Singapore.

Fucking LHL, sell us all out. Today, depriving Singaporeans a job, and give preferential treatment to Indians is consider a birthright.

Anonymous said...

Morally wrong, tantamount to sheep stealing. Sheep become shit you know

Anonymous said...

We should oso not work in foreign companies and under foregn bosses.

eremarf said...

BTW after the protest, I went over to Chinatown Point beside Hong Lim Park for dinner.

I was pleasantly surprised that Genki Sushi had automated their food ordering, serving, and disposal quite well.

It's a good example of what companies will do when labour costs go up - they invest in machines and procedures that raise labour productivity (more work is done per unit labour).

And in the end, Singapore wants more Genki Sushis than Sakae Sushis. If we continue to allow cheap labour inflows, it's the Sakaes that will succeed, not the Genkis.

Anonymous said...

How about your Chinese daughters sleep with ang moh kows because his garden is greener.? How much your daughters worth? Name a price

Anonymous said...

I sometimes think that Pinkie wants to lose, I believe he will step down before 2016. With the strong man on his dead bed and the people getting more braver it would be wiser to take all the billions and move out of politics. At least his next generation or as they say the 3rd generation will not be cursed and destroy everything.

Anonymous said...

I am not surprise he wants to do that. His dad forced him into politics, forced his first wife to end, forced him to marry HC. The result, he wanna makes us pay for all his grievances. Many political leaders past and present are profiled as psychopath.

Anonymous said...

anon 18/2/13 12:15 - also have chinese marrying ahnehs, arabs, pinoys, rusian, south americans, mongolias, turks etc. FYI, chinese girls have been marrying outside their own races for many centuries.

Anonymous said...

Best not encourage towards that direction. Common sense. Too many doing it, we all will be trouble.

Anonymous said...

Very high possibility that he will step down offering health as the reason before or soon after 2015/16.
However that will not save him, his parents and his family from being cursed. There may even be people looking into the deeds of the Lees while they were in office. There will be much attempt to probe into their histories. By then the Older Lee would probably not around or incapable of responding to queries.

There will be plenty of drama in the Sin Political Scene.

Anonymous said...

One thing i've noticed about all these pro-immigration research studies is they have not taken into account the % of foreigners to natives. In most of the countries cited (eg, UK, US, Australia, Europe), the foreigners(or ALIENS) as they called them are definitely lower than 30%(eg, UK as a whole is only 11% but the natives are already feeling the displeasures of the cultural clashes). Though in certain metropolitan cities, it is on par with Singapore. However, it is with respect to a bigger hinterland where people who do not agree with the mix can move to. So I would say all these studies focuses on the numbers and factors can be quantified. But they do not focus on what the qualitative factors that much.

Anonymous said...

this rally is truly memorable

but this will soon be forgotten by the masses like a passing rain unless there are follow up events leading to the next general and/or by-election

the organisers must ensure that the mood and inspiration of most Singaporean against this influx of immigrants is kept alive by organising more events and increasing participation and supports, this will just fade into history ... pap understand this very well

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